Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP
Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84; site bcsaic.UUCP
Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!tektronix!uw-beaver!ssc-vax!bcsaic!pamp
From: pamp@bcsaic.UUCP (pam pincha)
Newsgroups: net.abortion
Subject: Re: Re: Planned Parenthood posting
Message-ID: <273@bcsaic.UUCP>
Date: Fri, 6-Sep-85 14:59:06 EDT
Article-I.D.: bcsaic.273
Posted: Fri Sep  6 14:59:06 1985
Date-Received: Mon, 9-Sep-85 04:03:26 EDT
References: <681@mit-vax.UUCP> <957@bunker.UUCP> <255@bcsaic.UUCP> <11314@rochester.UUCP> <748@mit-vax.UUCP>
Reply-To: pamp@bcsaic.UUCP (pam pincha)
Organization: Boeing Computer Services AI Center, Seattle
Lines: 44
Summary: 

In article <748@mit-vax.UUCP> csdf@mit-vax.UUCP (Charles Forsythe) writes:
>In article <11314@rochester.UUCP> version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site mit-vax.UUCP version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site rochester.UUCP mit-vax!mit-eddie!think!harvard!seismo!rochester!ray ray@rochester.UUCP (Ray Frank) writes:
>>> 
>>> You ask if PP does discuss absinence as a method of
>>> birth control -- the one I went to did discuss it
>>> along with a host of others. (Suprise!)
>>> 				P.M.Pincha-Wagener
>>
>>PP:   So you want to have sex?
>>Girl: Yes.
>>PP:   Ever think of abstinence?
>>Girl: No.
>>PP:   Ok.  Over here we have a variety of contraceptive devices..........
>>No, not suprised at all.
>I suppose you would fix the last line:
>PP: Sorry, we can't help you.
>What good is that?
>-- 
Sigh.
I think that that was a very simplistic idea of a counciling
session. (Granted I was well out of adolescence when I went...)
What I remember was that sex was not to be taken lightly and
that abstinence was a better alternative to "jumping into
bed" with any guy, in that the complications of getting pregnant
and the hassles of the birth control methods could be avoided.
The atmosphere was one oriented towards taking responsibility
for ones own actions, and that they were there to provide
help and counciling in a NON-THEATENING OR PATRONIZING WAY!

There was peer group counciling for the teenagers to help them
make decisions - their own decisions! There was careful avoidance
of pressure towards one thing or the other. The councilers
were there to help and give information - what one decided was
ones own choice. 

That is completely different from the example shown above. All
that that example showed was a lack of information about what 
goes on in a counciling session, or in a PP office in general.
I suggest you go to one and find out. (Just remember that one
has to have an open mind, else one will see only what one
wants to see.)

				P.M.Pincha-Wagener
-----------------------------------------------------------