Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84; site mhuxr.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!mhuxr!mfs From: mfs@mhuxr.UUCP (SIMON) Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: Re: Can we make progress? Message-ID: <426@mhuxr.UUCP> Date: Mon, 9-Sep-85 08:28:45 EDT Article-I.D.: mhuxr.426 Posted: Mon Sep 9 08:28:45 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 10-Sep-85 04:15:55 EDT References: <30381@lanl.ARPA> <265@bcsaic.UUCP> <11440@rochester.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill Lines: 41 > Ray Frank: > It is certainly typical to avoid the issue > of sexuality and promiscuity, after all, bottom line, isn't sexuality the > reason for abortions, VD, etc? Does it hurt to much to discuss the reasons > why our society feels it must have as much sex as possible with many partners? > America has gone sex crazy in the past 15 years. > ...... > You feel that all we need is more information and everything will be alright. > I think this is a cop out. Kids know more about sexuality today then ever > before. You say that countries with more information about sex has fewer > abortions, would you please expound on this. Do those countries also have > similar abortion laws as the U.S.? .... > ..... I've read where some authorities on the phenomena of > teen suicide have in part connected it with the phenomena of the sexual > revolut-ion. This may or may not be true, all the evidence is not in yet. > But if it is true, how will we then deal with sexuality? More information? This is revealing. "Sexuality is the reason for abortion and VD", so repress sexuality and the world will be OK, right? Are you saying there were no abortions and no VD before the tearing down of the sex taboos? Study history, Mr. Frank: a VD epidemic wiped out 15% of the population of Rome in the 14th century, a "few" years before the beginning of the sexual revolution. You are woefully uninformed if you think "kids know more today than ever before." You might want to listen to stories from teen counselors and those Planned Parenthood people you feel are the focus of modern evil: 'I can't get pregnant if I take a shower right away'; 'I can't get pregnant if I lie with my legs up in the air'; 'If you sit on a hot wall then get up suddenly, you'll get gonorrea' etc, etc. The fact, Mr Frank, is that teenagers today are incredibly ignorant of the facts of their sexuality. They get no help from parents such as you, who wish to avoid the embarrassing fact that their sons and daughters *GET HORNY AT A CERTAIN AGE* and *ARE CALLED UPON BY NATURE* to take action on their horniness. Is it not better to ensure that this inevitable experimentation will have no ill result by making sure that all the facts are available *BEFOREHAND* rather than taking the ostrich approach and bemoaning the evils of sexuality when it is too late? Sex is a normal fact of biology, Mr. Frank, despite all of your pious breast-beating. Marcel Simon