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From: csdf@mit-vax.UUCP (Charles Forsythe)
Newsgroups: net.abortion
Subject: Re: Can we make progress?
Message-ID: <812@mit-vax.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 11-Sep-85 17:14:07 EDT
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Posted: Wed Sep 11 17:14:07 1985
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Summary: 

In article <340@we53.UUCP> bmt@we53.UUCP ( B. M. Thomas ) writes:
>I'm not
>trying to make anyone unhappy, just point out the *F*A*C*T* that casual sex
>is not good for anyone, whether they agree or not.

Interesting. Perhaps you'd like to share the support for this *F*A*C*T*?

>Rambling it was, sorry.  I get that way after a long day.  It was just another
>part of the "it feels good, so it must be right" lie.

Lie? Hmmm. What's the Truth? Perhaps I should stop eating too.

>
>No.  Practical reasons.  It may feel good now, son, but afterwards it will do
>you harm.  Just like lots of other things that I've taught you that seem good

Well, that must explain this funny hair growing on my palms....

>Not my department.  I can forgive them, but the question is, is it right?
>My purpose is not to judge, but to warn of danger, and to plead the cause
>of righteousness.

"Righteosness?" In who's eyes? What are the dangers? (Besides the obvious
"pregnancy and VD" which are results of carelessness) Maybe you are talking
about ETERNAL DAMNATION? Maybe not.

>"Not immoral"?  Says who?  You?  Pharaoh commanded the Jewish midwives to
>kill male Jewish babies too.  That was legal, since Pharaoh WAS the law.
>Was that "not immoral"?

No, it is immoral for a government to tell people what to do with their
own bodies. Nobody's advocating forced abortions.

>I'm not certain what you mean by a cloak of morality.  I am a somewhat
>seasoned sinner who has seen what my doings have caused, and come for
>forgiveness to someone who promised to forget my past and give me a new
>start.

Sinning seems to come naturally to humans, I'm sorry you didn't learn
how to do it right. As for me, I'm living a life of sin, getting a good
education, and having a GREAT time. Maybe Jesus will see me snuffed out
after I die, but I doubt you're any more capable of judging that than I
am. Considering that most of the gospels were written a couple of
decades or so after Jesus died(breifly:-), I don't know if I'd place a
great deal of "faith" in them. (Not, to mention the gospels that got
deleted because the orthodoxy din't approve of them.)

>it wrong, that causes guilt, sickness, and death.  Extramarital sex is wrong-
>doing, and the fact that your religion doesn't recognize that is a judgement
>on your religion and doesn't change the truth.

I suppose I'll realize that when the guilt, sickness and death hit me.

>
>brian
Have you ever seen "Life of Brian?" Oh never mind, you wouldn't find it funny
anyway...


-- 
Charles Forsythe
CSDF@MIT-VAX
"We pray to Fred for the Hopelessly Normal
	Have they not suffered enough?"

from _The_Nth_Psalm_ in _The_Book_of_Fred_