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From: dougp@ISM780.UUCP
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Subject: Re: Info wanted on In-circuit-emulators
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Date: Mon, 9-Sep-85 10:11:00 EDT
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Posted: Mon Sep  9 10:11:00 1985
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Nf-From: ISM780!dougp    Sep  9 10:11:00 1985


We just acquired an I**2ICE here at Interactive which is XT-hosted.  It
works.  That's just about all you can say about it.  The human interface
is TERRIBLE, as seems usual with Intel products.  There is a kinda prompt
line at the bottom of the screen which gives you choices of things to
type next in the middle of a command, but I still have all my standard
gripes about Intel command parsers (you've got to fully spell keywords
like FOREVER, and at times where only one keyword is allowed you still
have to type the fool thing, etc.).  I don't know if this is a released
Intel product or not (we got ours directly from Intel development 'cuz
we're doing some 80286 work for them), but they should be out soon.  I've
heard that the rumored price for the XT/AT interface board is roughly
$4K.  Yup, you heard me, and this is for a 1/2 sized board!  You still
need the I**2ICE box and a personality module for the processor you want
to debug.  These total another $20K.  I don't think it works very well on
a PC without a hard disk, as all the software and overlays have to be on
the same disk and it won't fit on a (360K) floppy.

Another alternative is the HP 64000 system with an 80286 emulator.  This
whole beast (integrated work station w/floppies and the emulator package)
costs about $20K and I've heard it's real nice.  It is run with programmable
function keys whose definitions change depending on where you are in a
command.  A menu above the keys tells you what's going on.  From all I
can find out about it, I wish we had one...

Cheers,

Doug Pintar at Interactive Systems, Inc.     (ihnp4!ucla-cs!ism780!dougp)

(My employers may agree with what I say, but NEVER publicly...)