Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site angband.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!lll-crg!mordor!angband!sjc From: sjc@angband.UUCP (Steve Correll) Newsgroups: net.audio Subject: Re: Re: one real CD interpolation filter Message-ID: <78@angband.UUCP> Date: Mon, 2-Sep-85 17:32:50 EDT Article-I.D.: angband.78 Posted: Mon Sep 2 17:32:50 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 4-Sep-85 06:08:20 EDT References: <519@amdimage.UUCP> <496@spar.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: S-1 Project, LLNL Lines: 30 > In article <519@amdimage.UUCP> steve@amdimage.UUCP (Steve eidson) writes: > >Then, there's a trick that Philips uses. They > >apply a noise shaping filter (no details provided) to the > >interpolator output... > I puzzled over this for a while after I read it and decided that they > must be doing dithering. Philips may also use dithering, but their noise-shaping is something else. Because Philips rounds each 16-bit sample to 14 high-order bits before presenting it to the D/A, circuitry prior to the D/A accumulates the error from each sample (that is, "16-bit sample" minus "16-bit sample rounded to 14 bits") and, when the error becomes big enough, subtracts it from the next 14-bit number being sent to the D/A converter. Thus, over a time scale of many samples, the integrated output of the D/A is the same as if the D/A accepted 16 bits. Dithering is a well-known technique which adds noise or random values to a signal to reduce digitization errors at the cost of S/N ratio. One cheap way to anti-alias an image for display on a raster monitor, for example, is to add noise to the edges of things. Anyone interested in the technology of the CD will want to read not only the paper by Peek in the February 1985 "IEEE Communications Magazine", but also Volume 40 No. 6 of the "Philips Technical Review" (1982), a collection of several papers on the CD. They are a giant step above what usually passes for technical information among audio manufacturers. -- --Steve Correll sjc@s1-b.ARPA, ...!decvax!decwrl!mordor!sjc, or ...!ucbvax!dual!mordor!sjc