Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ucsfcgl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!ucsfcgl!arnold From: arnold@ucsfcgl.UUCP (Ken Arnold%CGL) Newsgroups: net.auto,net.legal Subject: Re: Radar Surveillance Message-ID: <623@ucsfcgl.UUCP> Date: Sun, 25-Aug-85 21:32:49 EDT Article-I.D.: ucsfcgl.623 Posted: Sun Aug 25 21:32:49 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 27-Aug-85 01:24:30 EDT References: <1081@homxa.UUCP> <4891@allegra.UUCP> <269@ihlpl.UUCP> <1090@homxa.UUCP> <719@homxb.UUCP> <> <229@proper.UUCP> Reply-To: arnold@ucsfcgl.UUCP (Ken Arnold) Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab Lines: 55 Xref: watmath net.auto:7848 net.legal:2168 In article <229@proper.UUCP> elric@proper.UUCP (Elric of Imrryr) writes: >3) The national 55mph speed limit was forced down the states throats by >the federal gov't. (States that don't enforce the 55mph limit don't get >any highway $$$ from uncle. Even those that $$$$ came from the >taxpayers of that state. So I'm not speed because the 55mph is >illegal. It says in the consitution that the Federal Gov't is not to >interfear in the laws of the states. [all grammar and spelling from the original] The Constitution says nothing of the sort. It states (10th Ammendment) "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited to it by the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." The U.S. Government has the constitutional authority to allocate funds to the states, and if it chooses to put restrictions on those funds they have that right (modulo many questions of violation of personal and state's rights), since the Constitution gives the Congress the authority to allocate funds. And states are free to refuse the funds because they don't like the restrictions (or for any other reason, like, say, that they don't like the color of the money :-). This is no different from the U.S. offering money to any public institution with the proviso that the instution not discriminate on the basis of sex (which is not an explicitly guaranteed constitutional right). If the goverment gives money away, it has the right to ensure that the money is used in what it deems is a proper way, and, currently, it considers that building and maintaining highways were gas is wasted by driving over 55mph is not proper. (This is NOT an invitation to debate if they are CORRECT; they have the constiutional right to do so, correct or not.) Of course, this says nothing about interfering with state law, since no state has had its law superceded by federal law; they all voluntarily changed it in order to continue reaping the benefit of federal money. [certainly irrelevant discussion on hierarchy of national vs. state law follows, and can be ignored by people only interested in issues of 55mph] As far as interfering with state law goes, the national goverment has the constitutional right to make laws which superceded not only state legislation, but state constitutions as well. The Voting Rights Act is a supreme example of this. It can only do so in areas where its legislative authority is clear in the Constitution, such as in interstate commerce, the guaranteeing of republican goverment to the states, etc. But within those areas, if it chooses to legislate, its word is law in all states. In fact, if its legislation is comprehensive enough, states can not even make more restrictive legislation. This would only apply to 55mph if the Congress had passed a maximum speed limit law which set the maximum speed directly. All they did was set a condition for receipt of federal money. Ken Arnold