Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles $Revision: 1.7.0.8 $; site convex Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!convex!tmorris From: tmorris@convex.UUCP Newsgroups: net.auto Subject: Re: Strange Suspension Problem, Need Ad Message-ID: <82600009@convex> Date: Thu, 5-Sep-85 13:35:00 EDT Article-I.D.: convex.82600009 Posted: Thu Sep 5 13:35:00 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 7-Sep-85 13:49:15 EDT References: <234@cylixd.UUCP> Lines: 21 Nf-ID: #R:cylixd.UUCP:-23400:convex:82600009:000:1189 Nf-From: convex.UUCP!tmorris Sep 5 12:35:00 1985 I've got to agree with the previous response . As a former tech. for a GM dealer , I saw quite a few cars develop those symptoms after a change of tires . Radial tires put on older model Chevy ,Buick, and Olds wagons were the worst offenders , with large sedans coming in second. GM later countered with RTS ,or Radial Tuned Suspension. When the gas crunch caused vehicles to shrink , the problem all but disappeared as the vehicle mass/tire sidewall stiffness ratio improved. The radial ply counts heavily on the centrifugal force of the spinning wheel to maintain stiffness . You can see this take effect on a spin balancing machine , as the sidewalls pull in about 1/4" when the tire attains the rotation equivelent to about 50 mph. The effect is further discernible at rest , when the tires display "Radial Squat" , making them appear like they need air. Unfortunately ,at 3 mph , the force to stiffen the sidewalls just isn't there. This is especially noticeable when braking , as the vehicle is experiencing a sudden weight transfer , and at the same time the centrifugal force on the sidewall is suddenly decreasing... HAPPY MOTORING .