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From: kitten@hao.UUCP
Newsgroups: net.auto
Subject: Re: The longevity of turbos (again)
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Date: Wed, 11-Sep-85 00:08:09 EDT
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Posted: Wed Sep 11 00:08:09 1985
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> I purchased an '84 Mitsubishi Cordia Turbo in May 1984.  Everything
> was fine until I brought it in for 15,000 mile service in January.
> When I got the car back, I found that the bearing was damaged (step
> on the gas and it sounds like a 747 taking off).  The turbo was 
> replaced under warranty (would've been >$800), but the dealer offered
> no explanation except "these things happen".  

Funny that this happened when you got the car back.  When the rod
bearing on my engine went out, they repaired it, and then said it
was done, but I needed a new starter.  Seems when you put in a new
bearing, it's hard to start before break-in (new metal).  THEY
burned up the starter, instead of hand-cranking it.  On top of that,
they refused a rebuilt I brought in, saying it wouldn't "mesh".
Needless to say, I was stuck buying their starter.  Even though your
work was done under warranty, I would be wary of that dealer.  Ask
what was done at the 15K service, and ask a third party about it.

> The car has 30,000 miles now with no problems.  An interesting note
> is that all Mitsubishi turbos in '85 are water-cooled; in '84 they
> were not.

As I am planning to get my first new car, a Turbo Lancer or LeBaron GTS,
I am curious to know two things:  1) Do these models have the water-
cooled turbo (as does their Japanese partners) and 2) Does anyone have
any experience (especially longish term) with water-cooled turbos?

> Turbocharged engines *do* require more care on the part of the owner,
> including frequent oil changes, gradual warm up and (especially) 
> shut-down, etc.  They tend to make a car more flexible in terms of
> driving style (power only when you need it, efficiency when you
> want it, blah, blah, blah).  To be honest, though, I wanted a
> turbocharged engine because I like the feel of the "power vs. rpm"
> curve of these engines.

Just what I'm looking for...but after reading some of these articles,
I'm not sure.  Answers to the water-cool turbo question would be
*quite* helpful.

Thanx in advance.

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