Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 (Fortune 01.1b1); site graffiti.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!ut-sally!ut-ngp!shell!graffiti!peter From: peter@graffiti.UUCP (Peter da Silva) Newsgroups: net.books Subject: Re: Silverberg, Tiptree, and author's sex. Message-ID: <153@graffiti.UUCP> Date: Mon, 2-Sep-85 09:08:33 EDT Article-I.D.: graffiti.153 Posted: Mon Sep 2 09:08:33 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 5-Sep-85 00:50:09 EDT References: <1804@reed.UUCP> <23400001@ISM780B.UUCP> <3533@dartvax.UUCP> Organization: The Power Elite, Houston, TX Lines: 21 > anything other than an extremely fine male writer. I think it is extremely > easy to point out after the fact ``well, of COURSE Tiptree was female, look > at this story, and this one, and this one!'' I don't know about any "of course", but I do recall reading "Houston, Houston, do you read" and thinking "this guy has some serious problems". It is obvious in retrospect that Alice Sheldon has had very little experience with men who haven't been "putting on a show" for her benefit. There are other female authors who have this problem (Anne McCaffrey being a notable example), and of course mail authors with the opposite problem (Heinlein, for example). But "Houston, Houston, do you read" is probably the first story such people will point to. The males in the story all behave exactly like one of Desmond Morris's babboons. They think in sociobiological terms (how many of you stuck in a capsule would be afraid to answer the comm because the "Alpha Males" were both asleep?). Even Jack Chalker's "Fluxgirls" are more believable. It never occurred to me that James Tiptree Jr was a woman, probably because after reading "Houston, Houston, do you read" I put the collection down and never picked it up again, never gave it another thought. Then when I heard, it became obvious what was wrong.