Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site unc.unc.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!mcnc!unc!oliver From: oliver@unc.UUCP (Bill Oliver) Newsgroups: net.med,net.cooks,net.consumers Subject: Re: Diet, Nutrition, and Cancer Prevention (more lies) Message-ID: <224@unc.unc.UUCP> Date: Sun, 25-Aug-85 16:54:17 EDT Article-I.D.: unc.224 Posted: Sun Aug 25 16:54:17 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 26-Aug-85 09:55:09 EDT References: <1848@aecom.UUCP> <1093@cbdkc1.UUCP> <174@unc.unc.UUCP> <1116@cbdkc1.UUCP> Reply-To: oliver@unc.UUCP (Bill Oliver) Distribution: na Organization: CS Dept, U. of N. Carolina, Chapel Hill Lines: 45 Xref: pepe net.med:1106 net.cooks:1714 net.consumers:1474 Summary: In article <1116@cbdkc1.UUCP> tjs@dkc1.UUCP ( Tom Stanions) writes: > >As for insensitive you wished a skin cancer upon me in the next paragraph. This is, of course, a lie; no doubt that is why such a statement was not quoted by you. I do not wish disease upon anyone. If you live long enough, however, and you are a male, the probability of you getting a prostatic neoplasm is overwhelming. A similar statement is true of skin cancer (such as that on Reagan`s nose). Happily, the majority of people can be adequately treated for these diseases. I used these two examples as cancers which can be effectively treated unless ignored or treated inappropriately. > >Is it not possible that people can die of old age? No. People do not die of old age. The sensescence of the body sets one up for attack by specific diseases and conditions. A person who dies of stroke, heart attack, cancer, infection, or whatever at the age of 100 has died of a specific cause just as if he or she had been shot. You may think that aging and death is a natural and wonderful thing, and in fact, death is sometimes a blessing to those in great distress, but it would be much better to stay young. I suggest you ask around; I believe that almost all of the elder people you talk to would prefer to be twenty or thirty than eighty or ninety. > > >We are in fact more than willing to act as witnesses for ourselves, and that is >something we do very well. You say that I slander your motives, yet you >certainly slander mine. Again, you lie. And again you do not document your contention. I made no statement in my article about your motives. I simply state that you employ slander, half-truth, and even bold untruth, as amply shown above. I do not and did not pretend to know why you do this. I point out that I did not enter this to discuss your contentions about "natural" medicine, but because you specifically stated that we who are trying to cure cancer are doing it a) for the bucks alone and b) that we really don`t want to find a cure because that would dry up our funding. Bill Oliver