Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site cubsvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!ihnp4!qantel!dual!lll-crg!seismo!cmcl2!rna!cubsvax!winston From: winston@cubsvax.UUCP (Ken Winston) Newsgroups: net.crypt Subject: RSA cryptographic algorithm patented? Message-ID: <358@cubsvax.UUCP> Date: Mon, 9-Sep-85 20:37:55 EDT Article-I.D.: cubsvax.358 Posted: Mon Sep 9 20:37:55 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 13-Sep-85 05:08:40 EDT Organization: Columbia Univ Biology, New York City Lines: 29 One point that seems quite important to me in this discussion hasn't been touched on (at least I haven't seen it). That is, how can you patent something that's already been published and generally distributed? It seems to me that the RSA article preceded by some years the patenting. I have a copy of an MIT Laboratory for Computer Science paper by RSA dated April 1977 (does this make me a criminal?). I'm not sure when they obtained the patent, but my impression is that it was pretty recent. The problem here is: suppose, on obtaining the published paper that I said to myself, "This is a great idea, and it has lots of commercial potential." I develop a commercial product based on the paper. Then someone comes along sometime later and tells me that I'm violating a patent that didn't exist when I read the paper and developed my product. I notice nothing in the paper about a patent being applied for. I do notice, however, that the work was supported by the NSF and the Office of Naval Research, which raises some other questions. Wasn't there a case with the people who developed Gatorade at the University of Florida having to turn over their earnings on the commercial product to a government agency that supported the research? Anyway, does this mean that one shouldn't try to develop products based on published papers, because the authors may apply for a patent sometime later and screw one? Ken Winston Winston Capital Management, Inc. {cubsvax,cmcl2}!wealth!ken