Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site rti-sel.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!whuxl!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!mcnc!rti-sel!wfi From: wfi@rti-sel.UUCP (William Ingogly) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.flame Subject: Re: American Hostages Message-ID: <380@rti-sel.UUCP> Date: Mon, 26-Aug-85 13:01:56 EDT Article-I.D.: rti-sel.380 Posted: Mon Aug 26 13:01:56 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 28-Aug-85 10:04:27 EDT References: <1042@ihlpg.UUCP> <185@pyuxii.UUCP> <11045@rochester.UUCP> Reply-To: wfi@rti-sel.UUCP (William Ingogly) Organization: Research Triangle Institute, NC Lines: 41 Xref: watmath net.politics:10685 net.flame:11704 Summary: In article <309@ubvax.UUCP> tonyw@ubvax.UUCP (Tony Wuersch) writes: >In a state of law and respect for decency and civilians, anyone not >threatening violence should be able to go about their affairs without >inciting violence against them. The only way to demonstrate that a >state of law and respect does not exist is to initiate nonviolent >actions which generate violent responses. I think the lack of a state of law and respect in Nicaragua was abundantly clear without the Witness for Peace actions. Various brutal acts in both Nicaragua and El Salvador have been reported frequently on the nightly news and have failed to convince the average person on the street that the contras are Bad Guys. Mr. Reagan tells the public that the contras are the moral equivalents of our founding fathers. The contra leaders tell us that there is no conspiracy to rape, maim, and torture the Nicaraguan citizenry. People hear what they want to believe. Exactly who is being convinced by all of this? >If Bill thinks we all know >the contras are bloody murderers, then why doesn't the Congress know >this and cut the funds to the butchers? Why should the Christians >believe Bill? Read Jeanne Kirkpatrick's essay on the difference between Totalitarianism and Authoritarianism for a good laugh. Murder and rape appear to be O.K. as long as they're on the side of Truth, Justice and the American Way. And no one has to believe me; the evidence has been presented over and over again ad nauseum on the evening news (the public doesn't read any more, but I assume it still gets its news from the boob tube). >When there's a conspiracy of silence going on, often the more irrational >acts break through and do great good. I deny there's a conspiracy of silence. Everyone knows what's going on; it's just the INTERPRETATION of the facts that's at issue. Did you see that Nicaraguan peasant getting his throat cut? Sure. Too bad, but that was just some guy feeling his oats. I'm sure his 'morally superior' commander told him not to do it again... -- Cheers, Bill Ingogly