Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site philabs.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!dpb From: dpb@philabs.UUCP (Paul Benjamin) Newsgroups: net.games.chess Subject: Re: Re: New rigged world title rules Message-ID: <446@philabs.UUCP> Date: Thu, 12-Sep-85 13:05:58 EDT Article-I.D.: philabs.446 Posted: Thu Sep 12 13:05:58 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 14-Sep-85 01:55:46 EDT References: <475@ittvax.ATC.ITT.UUCP> <3238@nsc.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: Philips Labs, Briarcliff Manor, NY Lines: 45 > > b) The loser of the last world championship match (karpov > > or Kasparov in this instance) will join these 2 candidates > > for a 3-way playoff tournament. The winner of this > > tournament will be the challenger. > > > >It will be nearly impossible for a non-soviet chess player to > >become challenger. Because, statistically, at least two soviet > >players have always reached the candidates tournament, this > >rule 3-b seems designed to allow collusion between the soviet > >candidates. > > It seems that 2 soviet players reaching the top positions indicates that > the soviets have VERY GOOD players. If that were not the case, other people > would be on top more often! American players can become "intrenched" just > as much as French players and just as much as Soviet players and just as > much as ... IF AND ONLY IF they are good enough to move to the top of > the list. > > Politics can not cause a player to win or lose a game. Politics can spoil > the flavor of the game via bickering and yelling between games. What do you > want, a rule which requires 50% of all contenders to come from Western > nations? You're missing the point entirely. If two players of any nation reach the 3-way playoff, then there is a distinct possibility of one player intentionally drawing or losing games to the other so that their nation will still have the challenger. Thus, you are COMPLETELY WRONG in stating that politics can not cause a player to win or lose a game. Since the Soviets have the current champ and will have the current loser, this ensures that they will have at least one of the 3 in the playoff next time. So all they have to do is get one out of the two others, and they will be in a position to try this tactic to ensure that they will have the challenger. This then ensures that they will have the loser the next time, etc. Also check the way Soviet players are seeded into Interzonals. I don't remember the rules exactly, but I remember being impressed when I read them with the fact that Soviets need not eliminate each other - they can have a number of players with a good chance to reach the 3-way playoff. The whole point is that this is a system that heavily favors whichever nation has the current champion. Since the Russians have the current champ and current loser-to-be, they have changed the rules in this fashion to bias the chances towards themselves.