Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site ihuxb.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!ihuxb!mcal From: mcal@ihuxb.UUCP (Mike Clifford) Newsgroups: net.kids,net.politics Subject: Re: corporal punishment in schools Message-ID: <1143@ihuxb.UUCP> Date: Fri, 30-Aug-85 08:25:22 EDT Article-I.D.: ihuxb.1143 Posted: Fri Aug 30 08:25:22 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 1-Sep-85 06:04:35 EDT References: <2149T3B@psuvm> <6@unc.unc.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 32 Xref: watmath net.kids:1837 net.politics:10761 > >-- Tom Benson > >Corporal punishment, administered by a paddle, is occasionally used > >in our local district. > >I would be interested to see postings that describe the situation in > >other areas, and to read the net's views on corporal punishment as a > >form of school discipline. > > I have mixed feelings about corporal punishment. Where it is > permitted, the danger always exist that a teacher with a brutal streak > will terrorize the children. On the other hand, I wonder what sort of > punishment SHOULD be used. > > In New York City, corporal punishment is forbidden. Also, no > child may be expelled for any reason, under the reasoning that ALL > children have a RIGHT to education. The only motivation teachers may > provide is to giving and withholding approval, via grades and praise. > > The only way to stop this trend is to take back control of the schools > from the insubordinate students and return it to the teachers. But how can > we accomplish this with neither the option to expell the hard-line trouble- > makers, nor the permission to beat them into submission? > > Frank Silbermann I think that all children have the right to an education, but if they are at school to raise hell, instead of learning, OUT they go! Expel them! The hellraiser's classmates have a right to education, too, and if they are being tempted to goof off because of the rebels in the class and apparent helplessness of the teacher, then these kids are being "hurt" by not kicking out the "rebel". Mike Clifford