Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84; site mhuxt.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!js2j From: js2j@mhuxt.UUCP (sonntag) Newsgroups: net.kids,net.politics Subject: Re: corporal punishment in schools Message-ID: <1114@mhuxt.UUCP> Date: Mon, 2-Sep-85 11:17:05 EDT Article-I.D.: mhuxt.1114 Posted: Mon Sep 2 11:17:05 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 3-Sep-85 01:37:49 EDT References: <2149T3B@psuvm> <6@unc.unc.UUCP> <1143@ihuxb.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill Lines: 33 Xref: watmath net.kids:1845 net.politics:10781 > > The only way to stop this trend is to take back control of the schools > > from the insubordinate students and return it to the teachers. But how can > > we accomplish this with neither the option to expell the hard-line trouble- > > makers, nor the permission to beat them into submission? > > Frank Silbermann > > I think that all children have the right to an education, but if they are > at school to raise hell, instead of learning, OUT they go! Expel them! > The hellraiser's classmates have a right to education, too, and if they are > being tempted to goof off because of the rebels in the class and apparent > helplessness of the teacher, then these kids are being "hurt" by not kicking > out the "rebel". > Mike Clifford I was beginning to wonder just how all of the people who oppose corporal punishment planned to maintain any semblance of discipline in the classroom. Mike has been kind enough to admit his solution: if the kid is rebel, then they don't get an education. Is this guy for real, or what? I can see it now: "Alright, that's it! You've already had your last warning, Billy. I told you, once more with that spitball and you're history. But would you listen to me? Report to the office and tell them that you're expelled.!" "But Mr. Frumpkin - how am I ever going to get a job when I grow up, after having been kicked out of third grade?" "You shouldda thought of that before firing off that last spitball, mister. I don't want to see your face back in school again! Get out of here!" -- Jeff Sonntag ihnp4!mhuxt!js2j "Roads? Where we're going, we won't need any roads!"