Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles $Revision: 1.6.2.16 $; site ISM780.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!ihnp4!qantel!dual!lll-crg!gymble!umcp-cs!seismo!bbnccv!ISM780!joan From: joan@ISM780.UUCP Newsgroups: net.kids Subject: Learning about Life Message-ID: <29700001@ISM780.UUCP> Date: Fri, 6-Sep-85 11:01:00 EDT Article-I.D.: ISM780.29700001 Posted: Fri Sep 6 11:01:00 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 11-Sep-85 05:16:21 EDT Lines: 48 Nf-ID: #N:ISM780:29700001:000:1955 Nf-From: ISM780!joan Sep 6 11:01:00 1985 :-( I've been reading about pregnancy and childbirth for several months. I have a fair amount of book-knowledge now, but no people-knowledge. I decided recently that I would like to get into some kind of a childbirth class (or even beter, an ongoing discussion group) where I could talk to experienced people and ask questions. I've been calling around trying to find such a class. So far I haven't found anyone who accepts non-pregnant people. Some of the people I've talked to have been very nice but seem slightly confused at my request. Others seem to be annoyed, the implication being that I have no business wanting to study about childbirth without being pregnant myself. Yet another example of how our society tries to separate the experience of childbirth from "normal everyday" life. This attitude does little to remove the ignorance and fear of childbirth that many people have. So, there are two things that I'm after: 1) I want to know where a person who is NOT pregnant can go to learn about childbirth and discuss it with other people. Either general suggestions or specific names and places in the Los Angeles area will be greatly appreciated. 2) I want to know how all of you feel about the way we treat childbirth in America. Is it good that most of us have never seen a woman go through labor? Is it good that most of us have never touched a just-born baby? ****************************************************************************** Joan "the VMS group is moving mountains" Alexander Interactive Systems, Santa Monica, CA cca!ima!ism780!alexander decvax!vortex!ism780!alexander "Opinions expressed herein were not mine originally, but were forced on me at gunpoint by the Interactive Systems Corporation"