Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site cbscc.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!cbsck!cbscc!pmd From: pmd@cbscc.UUCP (Paul Dubuc) Newsgroups: net.kids Subject: Re: Learning about Life Message-ID: <5876@cbscc.UUCP> Date: Wed, 11-Sep-85 09:12:34 EDT Article-I.D.: cbscc.5876 Posted: Wed Sep 11 09:12:34 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 12-Sep-85 09:55:55 EDT References: <29700001@ISM780.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories , Columbus Lines: 54 I tried to mail this response, but it bounced. So here it is: Joan, I think the problems you are experiencing stem from the fact that the desire to learn (and the extent you wish to persue the knowledge) is rare (and exeptional, in my opinion) for people not involved in having a child of their own. If you plan to have any children of your own in the future, then time may take care of some of your frustration. If your desires or circumstances prevent this, however maybe I can offer some suggestions. 1) I want to know where a person who is NOT pregnant can go to learn about childbirth and discuss it with other people. Either general suggestions or specific names and places in the Los Angeles area will be greatly appreciated. I don't know of any specific groups. Maybe a school of nursing? One thing you could do is talk to a couple who has recently had the experience. Do you know anyone who is going to have a baby soon? 2) I want to know how all of you feel about the way we treat childbirth in America. Is it good that most of us have never seen a woman go through labor? Is it good that most of us have never touched a just-born baby? I think that missing these experiences deprives one of something very valuable. I'm glad I live in a time when I could see my daughter (and any future children) being born and help in the process. I am sorry that childbirth is a matter that has become more removed from the public mind and experience. I think the prevailing view emphasizes the burden and responsibility of having children for not being able to express the tremendous joy (even awe) of the experience. A human life is truly a wonderful being. Each one unique in her abilities, potential and character. The experince of birth is tremendous. It's hard to describe the joy and wonder that my wife and I experienced when we finally got to meet our daugher, for whom we had been waiting nine months. I guess missing that kind of experience can't help but leave a hollow spot in our human being. My wife volunteers and a local Pregnancy Distress Center which provides help and counselling in alternatives to abortion. We have had two teenage girls who wanted to place their babies with adoptive parents stay in our home during the latter part of their pregnancy. My wife was able to be their Lamaze coach and witness the birth of their children. If you are interested in providing this kind of help, perhaps you can get in touch with a similar agency where you live. Regards, -- Paul Dubuc cbscc!pmd