Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!ucbvax!wiscvm.arpa!UMFORTH%WEIZMANN.BITNET From: UMFORTH%WEIZMANN.BITNET@WISCVM.ARPA Newsgroups: net.lang.forth Subject: FIGIL DIGEST Message-ID: <8509021435.AA09522@UCB-VAX.ARPA> Date: Mon, 2-Sep-85 10:33:00 EDT Article-I.D.: UCB-VAX.8509021435.AA09522 Posted: Mon Sep 2 10:33:00 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 4-Sep-85 04:47:14 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.ARPA Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 81 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * News from FIGIL: FIGIL has been pretty quiet lately, and for good reason, aside from having a low volume of traffic because of the newness of the list, the network overseas has had a series of breakdowns in the European and Middle Eastern links. So we've been unconnected with the USA for just over a week! Sorry if it seems like we've been sleeping... Some of you have asked about archives. Since the list is new, there are no archives to be had. In the interests of posterity, (those who sign up in the future, FIGIL subscribers should make submissions so we have something to archive! FIGIL has no connections to other FORTH lists as yet. The only digest which is directly related is the INFO-MACFORTH list.... (Apple MacIntosh users of an implementation of FORTH known as MACFORTH) We haven't been directly involved with that list yet; perhaps someone out there can share with the rest of us what is going on with that list, or any other list of interest. Reminder to all FIGIL participants that we have only one address: UMFORTH@WEIZMANN.BITNET Our host system makes an important request.... A reminder to those who may have assumed otherwise, FIGIL is not directly an Arpanet Digest and does NOT have a separate UMFORTH-REQUEST address, please don't attempt to send mail to a "request" address. This only annoys the host's systems people who have to deal with forwarding mail, at best. At worst, it will never be delivered. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Date: 28 Aug 85 08:21:46 EDT (Wed) From: zim%mitre.ARPA@harvunxt.BITNET The FORTH lists have been pretty inactive lately ... I myself have a little problem to ask about (narrowly Macintosh oriented, so it may not be appro- priate for your list): Can someone suggest a simple way to get drawing-to-the-screen synchronized with the display refresh? My specific problem is in a little MacFORTH animation I'm doing, which involves inverting many regions sequentially; on the larger ones, there is frequently a flicker problem. Presumably there is some memory location I could watch, or some interrupt I could set up, to get my screen manipulations in sync with the vertical retrace of the display ... I see some cryptic references in INSIDE MACINTOSH but they are not helpful ... could I do something as simple as loop until the tickcount changes? I'm happy to use a little in-line assembler if necessary.... Tnx for your help! -z **************************** Note: Zim also forwarded to FIGIL this message.... From:JAY HELLER To:ALL Subject:It's Out! Date:8/21/85 7:15 " MacFORTH programming for the rest of us " is out and can be ordered from Creative Solutions 301/984-0262. The book is in and is real. I have one sitting on my desk. **************************** Subject: FORTH implementations on large systems The subject came up from someone not on this list, about FORTH as its implemented on large systems, IBM mainframes, UNIX systems (VAX, etc.), At our host, FORTH is not an available option, so I'm only familiar with micro implementations. Can anyone else talk about FORTH running on large systems, what vendor supplies it, how's its performance, how it differes from running on a micro system, etc. Has anyone dealt with POLYFORTH before? I've heard that it's a fairly sophisticated multi-user FORTH system. Thanks - Tamir UMFORTH@WEIZMANN.BITNET Acknowledge-To: