Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!ucbvax!fair From: fair@ucbvax.ARPA (Erik E. Fair) Newsgroups: net.mail Subject: Re: Standardising the "postmaster" concept Message-ID: <10298@ucbvax.ARPA> Date: Sat, 7-Sep-85 06:09:40 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.10298 Posted: Sat Sep 7 06:09:40 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 8-Sep-85 04:55:45 EDT References: <426@mungunni.OZ> Organization: University of California at Berkeley Lines: 23 This idea has been in the netnews documentation for a long time. Most properly set up USENET sites have an address `usenet' which is supposedly read by the person who administrates netnews (I know that the sites that I have had anything to do with are set up this way, and most of the sites that I have had occasion to contact at one time or another in the last three years are similarly equipped). `Postmaster' as a valid mail address is required by the ARPA Internet Mail Standard, RFC822, so all ARPA Internet sites will have a `postmaster', regardless of whether they have netnews or not. I am also told by various reliable sources that much of the BITNET has standardized on `POSTMAST' as a contact ID. Unfortunately for this idea, all of the versions of UNIX, other than the ones that come from Berkeley (2 & 4 BSD), have the most bletcherous mailers that it would ever be your misfortune to encounter, which, without exception, do not support the concept of an `alias' (e.g. ucbvax!usenet, ucbvax!erik, and a few other things, can all point to ucbvax!fair, without existing as entries in /etc/passwd). So until AT&T and its imitators discover what *real* electronic mailing systems are like (and what they do), we're stuck with the world as it is... Erik E. Fair ucbvax!fair fair@ucbarpa.BERKELEY.EDU