Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site omen.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!reed!omen!caf From: caf@omen.UUCP (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX) Newsgroups: net.micro Subject: Re: Times have changed at Apple Computer ... Message-ID: <228@omen.UUCP> Date: Sun, 25-Aug-85 14:37:18 EDT Article-I.D.: omen.228 Posted: Sun Aug 25 14:37:18 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 27-Aug-85 01:49:16 EDT References: <787@brl-tgr.ARPA> Reply-To: caf@omen.UUCP (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX) Organization: Omen Technology, Portland Lines: 17 Summary: In article <787@brl-tgr.ARPA> Lear@RU-BLUE.ARPA (eliot lear) writes: >A TRUE hacker (not to be confused with the press' definition) is someone that >knows how to find the "In"s and "Out"s of software or systems. If you have a >problem with a software program or with a system, you should be able to find >help when you find a TRUE hacker. An individual that breaks into systems or >steals passwords is NOT a hacker - (S)he is a THIEF or a VANDAL. Just wait until some legislator's son gets busted for password hacking, and you'll se unprotected computer systems redefined as an ATTRACTIVE NUSIANCE. Ask a swimming pool owner what that means. -- Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX ...!tektronix!reed!omen!caf CIS:70715,131 Omen Technology Inc 17505-V NW Sauvie Island Road Portland OR 97231 Voice: 503-621-3406 Modem: 503-621-3746 (Hit CR's for speed detect) omen Any ACU 1200 1-503-621-3746 se:--se: link ord: Giznoid in:--in: uucp Home of Professional-YAM, the most powerful COMM program for the IBM PC