Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site amdcad.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!ihnp4!amdcad!phil From: phil@amdcad.UUCP (Phil Ngai) Newsgroups: net.micro Subject: Re: NEC V20 8088 compatible microproces Message-ID: <3737@amdcad.UUCP> Date: Tue, 10-Sep-85 02:03:41 EDT Article-I.D.: amdcad.3737 Posted: Tue Sep 10 02:03:41 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 11-Sep-85 05:40:13 EDT References: <207@ittral.UUCP> <53400064@trsvax> <3663@amdcad.UUCP> <510@spar.UUCP> Reply-To: phil@amdcad.UUCP (Phil Ngai) Organization: AMD, Sunnyvale, California Lines: 25 In article <510@spar.UUCP> baba@spar.UUCP (Baba ROM DOS) writes: >pretty inconclusive and at times contradictory. My question is: If NEC >*did* steal Intel's microcode, why are the V20s reported to be 15% faster than >their born-in-the-USA brethren, at the same CPU clock rate? > > Baba I imagine they did "clever and original" things like put an adder in the addressing unit so that the execution unit doesn't have to share its adder, allowing more concurrency. I put "clever and original" in quotes because Intel did the same thing (first?) in their 80186. So obviously they didn't take the microcode bit for bit. If they changed just one bit, is it stealing? What about 100? We have a slippery slope here but if I were the judge, I would probably rule NEC's action was improper if there were a substantial similarity to Intel's microcode. -- A hacker is someone who orders Sweet and Sour Bitter Melon just because it is "an impossible combination". Phil Ngai (408) 749-5720 UUCP: {ucbvax,decwrl,ihnp4,allegra}!amdcad!phil ARPA: amdcad!phil@decwrl.ARPA