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From: gww@aphasia.UUCP (George Williams)
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Subject: Re: Re: Re: instability in Berkeley versus AT&T releases (absurdly long)
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Date: Mon, 26-Aug-85 18:06:58 EDT
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> From *both* viewpoints, it is simpler to have pagination available in the
> tty driver.  This means that the implementors don't have to kludge it into
> every program, and the users need neither lightning reflexes nor high
> sophistication.	 Try it, you'll like it.
> -- 
>				Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
>				{allegra,ihnp4,linus,decvax}!utzoo!henry

One problem with pagination in the tty driver:
    At caltech we have a network that lives between most computers and
    most terminals, now unfortunately the network uses ^S/^Q (of course)
    and any ^S, ^Q you type on your terminal will go to the network
    not to the computer.  So putting pagination in the tty driver
    really confuses novice users, the documentation says that pressing
    ^Q gets things started again, but it doesn't.  Instead they have
    to rummage arround, find the network documentation (which is not
    written for novices) find that what they really want is ^P^Q.

    I admit that I found this very useful when playing on a twenty
    many years ago, but when I started using our network I discovered
    that about half the lines I logged into had old processes hanging
    arround that just needed a ^P^Q typed on them.

    There must be a better soln. somewhere.

		    George Williams
		    cit-vax!aphasia!gww

	       the moon is nothing 
But a circumambulating aphrodisia
Divinely subsidized to provoke the world
Into a rising birth-rate