Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site omen.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxj!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!reed!omen!caf From: caf@omen.UUCP (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX) Newsgroups: net.micro.pc Subject: Re: Need 'vi' for MS-DOS Message-ID: <230@omen.UUCP> Date: Wed, 28-Aug-85 15:08:41 EDT Article-I.D.: omen.230 Posted: Wed Aug 28 15:08:41 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 31-Aug-85 05:14:41 EDT References: <109@foxvax5.UUCP> <16000005@orstcs.UUCP> <291@rruxo.UUCP> Reply-To: caf@omen.UUCP (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX) Organization: Omen Technology, Portland Lines: 42 Summary: In article <291@rruxo.UUCP> vch@rruxo.UUCP (Kerro Panille) writes: >There is a program called 'z' that is very similar to 'vi', and is available >for PC's. It's by Manx Software Systems, written by Jim Goodnow II. > >(personally, I prefer a *real* PC editor. PC's are so flexible, why do you >want to limit yourself??) > >BRIEF, by Underware, Inc, is a great PC editor. It has full color, a *real* >undo command (capable of up to 100 commands), windows, macros, one-keystroke >compilation that puts the cursor at the error, and it even displays the >current time!!. BRIEF is available from Solution Systems, Inc, 335 Washington >ST, Norwell, MA 02061,(617) 659-1571. Well worth the money and time to learn >to use. It has very good documentation. >-- Is a version available for the various Unix systems? The advantage of vi for DOS is that one would avoid relearning 69,000 different editor commands just to work on a different system. Since we "all" have to know regular expressions to use ed, sed, lex, regcmp, bfs, etc., Unix "types" must learn most of vi anyway. My "other" editor is EMACS (the PD one from MIT based on Jove) which fits well with my nascent ingrained memories of TECO. Its main disadvantage is the inability to handle arbitrary files, being limited in the line length that it can handle. On DOS I use MINCE (would be nice to have a new version, mine is several years old) which is almost a proper subset of EMACS. Sometimes I use MEDIT, a full screen editor whose main virtue is its small size on disk, less than 20k. But, since it uses a completely different set of commands from the editors I'm used to, I don't use it very often, only when on floppies that won't hold a larger editor. For me to start using another editor, it must either 1) Do half of my hacking for me, or 2) be available on all the systems I expect to use, including the Mac, ST512, etc. -- Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX ...!tektronix!reed!omen!caf CIS:70715,131 Omen Technology Inc 17505-V NW Sauvie Island Road Portland OR 97231 Voice: 503-621-3406 Modem: 503-621-3746 (Hit CR's for speed detect) omen Any ACU 1200 1-503-621-3746 se:--se: link ord: Giznoid in:--in: uucp Home of Professional-YAM, the most powerful COMM program for the IBM PC