Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site myriasb.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcsri!ubc-vision!alberta!myriasb!mj From: mj@myriasb.UUCP (Michal Jaegermann) Newsgroups: net.micro.ti Subject: Re: TI 99/4a Logo II? Message-ID: <476@myriasb.UUCP> Date: Thu, 5-Sep-85 11:35:23 EDT Article-I.D.: myriasb.476 Posted: Thu Sep 5 11:35:23 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 5-Sep-85 14:13:19 EDT References: <59@bbncc5.UUCP> Organization: Myrias Research, Edmonton Lines: 33 [ crunch! crunch! ] I am responding in news since mail was returned by bellcore with "user unknown" message. Follows contents of my letter: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Here in Edmonton is a store which right now is advertising Logo II for something like 99.95 (Canadian). Its address is "Nova Computerware", 52 Airport Road, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada (sorry, no code). Phone (403) - 452 - 0372. "Phone & mail orders welcome". Open Tue-Sat 1:00 - 5:00 p.m. They have also some other stuff for TI 99. Please be advised that though I consider Logo II an excellent implementation - if you take into account space and an architecture constraints - it has one serious deficiency and one very serious and annoying bug. A deficiency is that you cannot dump your turtle screen to a dot-matrix printer. Since there is no link to assembler of which I would know I cannot patch it. An essence of a bug is a fact that editor accepts lists of limited length. Since a load from mass storage (like disk) apparently goes through the editor a net effect is as follows: whenever you have program which generates longer lists (like ANIMAL for example) and you will save it after running a while, then on the next attempt to load it back a system will quietly crash. You may program around this - like splitting lists into dummy procedures on save and restoring on load - but this is neither obvious nor convenient and for sure difficult to explain to kids. ...ihnp4!Alberta!myrias!mj ======================================================================= I do not have any connections neither with "Nova Computerware" nor TI. The info on availability only reproduces what I have seen in an ad.