Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site Cascade.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!Glacier!Cascade!asente From: asente@Cascade.ARPA Newsgroups: net.music.classical Subject: Re: Tone poems (Holst's "Mars") Message-ID: <1109@Cascade.ARPA> Date: Wed, 28-Aug-85 15:39:46 EDT Article-I.D.: Cascade.1109 Posted: Wed Aug 28 15:39:46 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 31-Aug-85 06:33:30 EDT References: <478@petrus.UUCP> <472@olivee.UUCP> <1950@amdahl.UUCP> Reply-To: asente@Cascade.UUCP (Paul Asente) Distribution: net Organization: Stanford University CIS Apple Orchard Lines: 22 Summary: In article <1950@amdahl.UUCP> gam@amdahl.UUCP (G A Moffett) writes: >Holst's "Mars" (from "The Planets") has brought to my mind visions of >war (surprise!), but in particular, the final "blast" being that of >a nuclear bomb. I also associate some of the discordant tones with >drawings by Goya of mutilated victims of war. And there is of course >the mindless marching of soldiers on both sides committing these >attrocities. In addition to the marching soldiers, I always get images of tanks rolling forward and relentlessly crushing everything and everyone in their paths. I think it's interesting that virtually everyone "sees" marching in that piece, especially since it's written in 5/4! I find Wagner's "Venusberg" music from "Tannheuser" (I think that's spelled wrong but every spelling I tried looked equally bad) almost pornographic in its depiction of sexual activity. And "Lady Macbeth of Mtsensk" by Shostakovich has the most descriptive orchestral passage I've ever heard: immediately after the seduction scene, there's a series of irregularly spaced downward trombone slides. -paul asente asente@Cascade.ARPA decwrl!Glacier!Cascade!asente