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From: sunil@ut-ngp.UTEXAS (Sunil Trivedi)
Newsgroups: net.news.group
Subject: Re: Vote Fraud and Newsgroups
Message-ID: <2309@ut-ngp.UTEXAS>
Date: Tue, 27-Aug-85 17:50:14 EDT
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Posted: Tue Aug 27 17:50:14 1985
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From: lauren@vortex.UUCP (Lauren Weinstein) Message-ID:<755@vortex.UUCP>
>...				The person who wants the group says,
>"I want this group.  Send your votes to me."  Then he or she sometime
>later (almost inevitably) says, "well, I got 20 yes votes (or 50, or 
>whatever) for the group, so let's create it now."  
>...		there's another issue.  How do we know that the person
>proposing the group is going to be completely honest about the
>responses they receive?

Well Lauren, I'll send the list of "supporters" of net.nlang.spanish to
anyone who requests it or I'll post it to the net.  If you (or anyone
else) don't believe me, you can send e-mail to them and ask them about
it for your own piece-of-mind.  I'd hope that you do not doubt the
maturity of most of the Usenetters!  Keep in mind since most of the
Usenetters are readers and not posters, many of these people prefer to
to send e-mail than posting to net.news.group. It's much easier to rally
people to go against something than to rally for something.  People who
are against will normally post their disappointments to the net [I think
we know many of these :-) ]

>With a small network and few groups (and low traffic) newsgroup
>creation wasn't such a big deal.  But we now have a big network,
>lots of traffic, and lots of people--a new newsgroup can immediately
>impact disk space, costs, and various other factors for many, many
>people around the world.

A new newsgroup can only survive (the cleanups) if traffic (appeal) is
seen.  If there is no appeal, the newsgroup will die at the next round
of Spaf's Clean Sweep. :-)  If you are worried about disk space, etc,
then you don't need to take on a full newsfeed.  I'm sure that net.flame
is not a high priority on many sites so they don't carry it.

				 Sunil  Trivedi
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