Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version VT1.00C 11/1/84; site vortex.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!vortex!lauren From: lauren@vortex.UUCP (Lauren Weinstein) Newsgroups: net.news.group Subject: Re: Vote Fraud and Newsgroups Message-ID: <765@vortex.UUCP> Date: Fri, 30-Aug-85 04:50:16 EDT Article-I.D.: vortex.765 Posted: Fri Aug 30 04:50:16 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 31-Aug-85 08:18:12 EDT References: <2309@ut-ngp.UTEXAS> Organization: Vortex Technology, Los Angeles Lines: 27 It isn't that easy for many sites to take partial feeds. Since the downstream sites are affected by the choices the upstream feeds make, any attempt to "cut back" on newsgroups by many sites frequently results in cries and screams from downstream. "Don't take away the important groups like net.bizarre and net.flame," they yell! It is NOT true that it's harder to rally support FOR a group than against it. For ANY TOPIC you care to name, you could get a bunch of people together to support it. A few people will bother to speak out against it. The vast majority couldn't care less and won't bother to say anything. This latter group doesn't intend to read it, but they don't care about the disk space and phones and such, so they don't care if it gets sent around. Let's say you had some oddball topic that 20 people wanted to discuss. They are prolific--they post lots of messages. The group will LOOK "useful"--it will certainly have plenty in it... but does it serve the net at large? Couldn't a mailing list have done a better job? The amount of waste involved in the net is almost unimagineable. Mailing lists could serve many interested people far better in many cases than newsgroups being sent everywhere. When the large sites that support much of the net start pulling the plugs (and sooner or later they will) it's gonna be all too clear what our "loose" attitude toward newsgroup creation has netted us (no pun intended). --Lauren--