Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 SMI; site sun.uucp Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!decvax!decwrl!sun!dcj From: dcj@sun.uucp (Don Jackson) Newsgroups: net.news.group Subject: Re: Causes on the net... Message-ID: <2750@sun.uucp> Date: Tue, 3-Sep-85 02:34:46 EDT Article-I.D.: sun.2750 Posted: Tue Sep 3 02:34:46 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 5-Sep-85 00:46:54 EDT References: <205@kepler.UUCP> <774@vortex.UUCP> Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Lines: 38 I think Lauren has raised a very good point. Everyone burns a bit of disk space, cpu time, and phone charges to participate on USENET. It seems to me that most of the larger sites contribute more than their "fair share" (I don't consider my site to be large). It is easier to justify this expense when you think the groups are all net.unix-wizards and net.lang.c, etc. Next, everyone (including me) subscribes to all the "hobby" type groups that interest them (music, sports, their favorite personal computer). Then there are the "opinion" groups (religion, abortion, politics, and flame come to mind). Now a group for organization of political activity by a group of people with a not universally shared (Universality isn't really the point, it just doesn't make things any easier) agenda. I'm glad I don't have to get my management to sign off on USENET related expenses, especially if they had seen the entire contents of even one days messages. I think the net is pushing it's luck if more and more non-technical groups proliferate. It is just making it more difficult to justify the expense. Many large sites are for-profit publicly-owned corporations, these are the kinds of places where cover-your-??? type decisions are made daily. What are we going to do if some of the big players pull out? One other thing. If person/company "a" gives somebody "b" an account on their computer, fine. If person "b" sends a message from a's computer to z's, there is a very good chance that other nodes helped to pay for that message. It seems that some respondents to this topic are confusing their right to give somebody an account versus the cost to others of allowing that person the priviledge of sending USENET mail. Sorry this is so long. I'm not "anti-peace". I'm speaking only for myself, not my company. Don