Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP
Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site cyb-eng.UUCP
Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!ut-sally!cyb-eng!howard
From: howard@cyb-eng.UUCP (Howard Johnson)
Newsgroups: net.news.group
Subject: Re: Proposal for starting net.peace
Message-ID: <687@cyb-eng.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 4-Sep-85 14:27:09 EDT
Article-I.D.: cyb-eng.687
Posted: Wed Sep  4 14:27:09 1985
Date-Received: Fri, 6-Sep-85 03:14:25 EDT
References: <195@kepler.UUCP>
Organization: Cyb Systems, Austin, TX
Lines: 25

World.peace will not be achieved via net.peace.

> As for the need from USENET's standpoint, net.politics sees a lot uf
> use, but the exchange of ideas is random and not directed toward any
> goal other than expressing opinions or flaming at Don Black.

Usenet works well as a forum for exchanging information and to some
degree for discussion about common interests.  But *netnews* groups
which invite SOAP-BOX DISCUSSIONS do not achieve significant progress
toward their desired ends.  This has already been proven in net.religion,
net.politics, net.abortion, et. al.

> The other critical question is: How many publicly accessible nodes
> are there out there?

I don't know about your site, but mine is definitely not publicly
accessible; it is accessible through invitation only.  By this I mean
that the general public in Austin are not invited to sit down at
my terminal to gain access to Usenet.  To date, all Usenet news groups
are invited guests at our site.  Identifiable "soap-box" groups are
escorted to the bit bucket at an early age.  Just don't force us to
stop offering news groups to our downstream neighbors.
-- 
..!{seismo,topaz,mordor,harvard,gatech,nbires,ihnp4}!ut-sally!cyb-eng!howard
(ordered best to worst); also ..!{ut-ngp,shell}!cyb-eng!howard  +1 512 458 6609