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From: david@ukma.UUCP (David Herron, NPR Lover)
Newsgroups: net.news.group
Subject: Re: A modest proposal
Message-ID: <2143@ukma.UUCP>
Date: Fri, 6-Sep-85 15:12:41 EDT
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Posted: Fri Sep  6 15:12:41 1985
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In article <3261@pur-ee.UUCP> mazina@pur-ee.UUCP (Der Kaiser) writes:
...
>		A monitor for each group.
...
[With these duties: ]
>	1) Read ALL the articles posted. (In net.flame, a BIG job)
>	2) Mail warnings to inappropriate posters. 
>	3) If a poster repeatedly ignores warnings (3 or more?),
>	   mail a note to their system site administrator, requesting
>	   action.

I'm glad somebody else has had this idea.  I had it about a month ago
and thought I'd let it percolate .... There's only one duty I'd like
to add:

	4) monthly/biweekly/weekly posting of "proper etiquette"
	   for that newsgroup.  (Time period would be appropriate
	   to the group and size of the posting).

One problem I see is that people aren't reading the net.announce.newusers
stuff.  Maybe if they did they'd have a greater feel for the impact of
their actions.  Also, mispostings could be explained by bad organization
of the newsgroup list (not Gene's fault!) so people find it hard to
read.  If there were small readable postings in each newsgroup the
information (on proper postings) might be easier to absorb.

I just couldn't think of any real power such a person could posess.

At any rate, here's a possible posting I came up with for net.sources.
(This is a slightly changed net.sources that understands what is happening
with net.sources with it moving towards mod.sources).


Proposed net.sources rules file
-------------------------------
[Created 10-Aug-85, David Herron, ukma!david.  This file describes the 
proper use for net.sources.  It's posted once a month by some net ghod 
who hasn't been chosen yet.]

Purpose:	Net.sources is for postings related to program sources
		which have been posted to the network.


1. For postings of sources, send them to the mod.sources
   moderator, John Nelson (john@genrad.UUCP).
2. Be warned that posting sources here may get you flamed.  Also, you
   and you alone will be responsible for handling "I missed x, please
   repost" requests.  If you post through mod.sources then this can
   be taken care of for you.
3. If you still feel you must post sources here then there are a
   couple of rules to follow:
	a. Make sure they're short and not of cosmic significance.
	   Large cosmically significant postings belong in mod.sources.
	b. Don't repost because one person on the far side of the
	   net missed your posting.  Mail it to him (or her) instead.
	   You'll save us all a lot of phone bills, and not clutter 
	   up the newsgroup as well.
-------------------------------------

Whew!  That came to 23 lines.

What I have in mind here can be titled "coordinator" if you like titles.
Maybe s/he can be given some software powers.  But, at least, the
coordinator should be the policeman on the block, so to speak.  Abusers
and the like in that newsgroup should be brought to his attention.  etc.

It's an idea anyway ...


(It's time to get down off my soapbox now)
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