Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site amdahl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!decwrl!sun!amdahl!gam From: gam@amdahl.UUCP (G A Moffett) Newsgroups: net.news.group,net.news Subject: The politics of groups (of people) Message-ID: <1996@amdahl.UUCP> Date: Sat, 7-Sep-85 03:08:35 EDT Article-I.D.: amdahl.1996 Posted: Sat Sep 7 03:08:35 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 9-Sep-85 02:34:18 EDT Reply-To: gam@amdahl.UUCP (G A Moffett) Followup-To: net.news Organization: Blue Mouse Trailer Resort, Hellmouth, CA Lines: 17 Keywords: concensus democracy Xref: watmath net.news.group:3701 net.news:3893 Once a group reaches a certain size, it ceases to be practical to make decisions by consensus (and I am claiming that ``concensus'' was the old-style method of decision-making on Usenet). A democracy can make decisions, but since the vote-counting is so important, the verification of one-person-one-vote becomes costly (as we are seeing by the 'vote fraud' discussion). A way of by-passing these political processes, as we are admitting to ourselves they will not work for Usenet anyway, is to allow a free marketplace to decide. That is, as I said in my followup to the ``Doomsday Cometh'' article, that each site decides what it can carry and the aggregate of those individual decisions will determine in which direction Usenet will go. -- Gordon A. Moffett ...!{ihnp4,cbosgd,hplabs}!amdahl!gam