Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version VT1.00C 11/1/84; site vortex.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!bellcore!vortex!lauren From: lauren@vortex.UUCP (Lauren Weinstein) Newsgroups: net.news.group Subject: Re: Doomsday cometh? Are you sure? Message-ID: <799@vortex.UUCP> Date: Tue, 10-Sep-85 13:37:49 EDT Article-I.D.: vortex.799 Posted: Tue Sep 10 13:37:49 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 13-Sep-85 04:52:50 EDT References: <85@l5.uucp> Organization: Vortex Technology, Los Angeles Lines: 42 The reason I presume the influx of small machines will degrade netnews is quite clear. They could easily outnumber all of the big machines in a very short order and represent many thousands of new users. So the total number of users on the net grows immensely. As the number of users grow, we will get more and more people (absolute quantity) who don't give one damn about following the rules and who even enjoy causing trouble. If 1% of the population falls into one of those categories (and it's bound to be more than that) that's still enough people (in a numerical sense) to flood us with garbage. If 1% of the people on the network are "jerks" or even if they don't follow the rules by accident (and there will always be new people who will have the same "accidents") it still adds up to a large of amount of nonsense traffic in an *absolute* sense. Remember, even ONE PERSON, if they set their mind to it, could bring netnews to its knees and be extremely difficult to track down if they were clever enough. As we grow, we're going to start finding people (just like hardcore phone phreaks) who ENJOY causing that sort of trouble. When we have 500K or 600K people on this net, how is ANYONE going to afford (money or time!) to wade through even the GOOD stuff? How will anyone be able to ask a question in an unmoderated environment? So there are really two different issues here: 1) The small percentage of jerks that could cause us real trouble on purpose, who will grow in absolute numbers and take advantage of our "open door free-for-all" policy. 2) The systemic problems associated with sending EVERYTHING that ANYONE posts to EVERYWHERE (in most cases) regardless of the fact that many messages simply duplicate others, consist largely of copies of other messages, etc. This latter problem won't be solved by better transmission techniques, in fact it might only make things worse by encouraging MORE traffic! Only some fundamental change in the way we view the material can help in the long run. My opinion, anyway. --Lauren--