Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site dartvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!decvax!dartvax!betsy From: betsy@dartvax.UUCP (Betsy Hanes Perry) Newsgroups: net.nlang Subject: Re: Second person singular Message-ID: <3568@dartvax.UUCP> Date: Tue, 10-Sep-85 14:14:08 EDT Article-I.D.: dartvax.3568 Posted: Tue Sep 10 14:14:08 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 11-Sep-85 20:08:44 EDT References: <2058@dutoit.UUCP> Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH Lines: 32 > I know several Philadelphia-area Quaker families who use > "plain speech" when addressing family members. The nominative > of the second person singular, among them, is "thee," as in, > "Ben, if thee doesn't stop that, I'm going to hit thee." > > As you might guess from the example, I knew them best when > we were kids together 30 years ago. I wonder if they are > teaching it to their own children? > > Dennis Ritchie The usage is still current among Indiana Friends; my best childhood friend's family plain-spoke one another. I have never felt quite so included as when her four-year-old brother thee'ed me. Incidentally, I have heard "thee's", usually in contexts like "Thee's going to be quite surprised one of these days!" Friends themselves are ambivalent about the "plain speech"; it was adopted to be inclusive (Friends used "thou" to everybody, even the King!), but has gradually shifted into exclusiveness (we talk funny, but only among ourselves). A story Friends often tell on themselves is of the little girl who was giving a scolding to her doll: "Thee's been so bad! I don't know what to say to thee -- " "thee -- thee YOU, thee!" -- Elizabeth Hanes Perry UUCP: {decvax |ihnp4 | linus| cornell}!dartvax!betsy CSNET: betsy@dartmouth ARPA: betsy%dartmouth@csnet-relay "Ooh, ick!" -- Penfold