Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site sphinx.UChicago.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!gargoyle!sphinx!beth From: beth@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP (Beth Christy) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Making the model fit the data? Message-ID: <1088@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP> Date: Tue, 3-Sep-85 16:12:51 EDT Article-I.D.: sphinx.1088 Posted: Tue Sep 3 16:12:51 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 5-Sep-85 00:42:32 EDT References: <717@mit-vax.UUCP> Organization: U. Chicago - Computation Center Lines: 34 [Massage this line with your replacement] From: csdf@mit-vax.UUCP (Charles Forsythe), Message-ID: <717@mit-vax.UUCP>: >It's >funny, when a model doesn't work, science tends to look at the model and >fix it. That way, accurate models are maintained. I don't know how religiously (:-) you believe this statement, but I sort of feel called to point out that science, like religion, is carried on by people, and people aren't always that willing to toss out their beliefs (and especially not their preconceptions) just because they don't match the available data. Even scientists occasionally ignore or fudge data that doesn't fit (although it may often be entirely unintentional). If you consider psychology and research into child development to be at all scientific, read Carol Gilligan's _In_A_Different_Voice_ for *truly shocking* examples of "scientific" researchers FLAT OUT IGNORING over 50% of the available data, even during the formative stages of their theories. (Even if you don't consider psychology scientific, I highly recommend the book.) It's true that during working hours scientists are much more open to alternate models than most folks, and to the degree that they're able to maintain that, accuracy is more likely in science than in other areas. But I just wanted to remind folks that they're not perfect at it. -- --JB (Beth Christy, U. of Chicago, ..!ihnp4!gargoyle!sphinx!beth) "Oh yeah, P.S., I...I feel...feel like...I am in a burning building And I gotta go." (Laurie Anderson)