Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84; site bcsaic.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!fluke!ssc-vax!bcsaic!pamp From: pamp@bcsaic.UUCP (pam pincha) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: more on large animals and gravity Message-ID: <257@bcsaic.UUCP> Date: Fri, 30-Aug-85 16:44:13 EDT Article-I.D.: bcsaic.257 Posted: Fri Aug 30 16:44:13 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 5-Sep-85 07:39:27 EDT References: <382@imsvax.UUCP> Reply-To: pamp@bcsaic.UUCP (pam pincha) Organization: Boeing Computer Services AI Center, Seattle Lines: 60 Summary: In article <382@imsvax.UUCP> ted@imsvax.UUCP (Ted Holden) writes: > The notion that humans exterminated most of the world's > mega-fauna is idiotic and worthy of ridicule. > Picture > ancient man exterminating EVERY SINGLE ONE of the double-sized > super-rhinos or megalotheriums on this planet with knives and > spears. That is what Bill Jefferys, Stan Friesen et al would > have us believe happened. AAAAARGH!!!!!!!!!!:-) I CARE TO DIFFER WITH THE BLANTENT MISDIRECTION OF THIS ARTICLE! In my reading of the articles listed (and the ones the I have posted) NO WHERE was it stated that man killed off ALL the mega-fauna!!!!!!! In fact I SPECIFICALLY STATED that was not the case!!! READ YOUR ARTICLES CAREFULLY!!!! All it takes is depleting a certian amount of the population below its critical mass to cause it to die out.(THIS is what is happening currently!) Once this happens, Nature does the rest. Now if this happens to an important link in the food chain, other species (carnivores especially) die off too because of a lack of food! This tends to be a cascading effect that can affect several groups -- especially during times of stress due to environmental transistions such as the period just after a major ice age!! It is not difficult. What we have happening today is very similar. Point 2 - In regard to no fauna recorded being wiped out over an entire continent until recently __WRONG!WRONG!WRONG!!!!!!!!!!! This has happened quite frequently throughout geologic history. The most distinctive of these are the INDEX FOSSILS geologist use all the time to distinquish ceertian areas, and time periods. These are very significant and usefull indicators. So on this point you have been grossly mislead!! Point 3 - No ancient calendar having more than 360 days. Please! Look up the Olmec calendar(which later became the Mayan calendar) for accurate calendars. They not only had 365 days they had compensations for all leap year contingencies.Their calendar rivals ours (and is in some ways better)for accuracy! What are you trying to prove with that statement? Point 4 - In reguards to the texts used on dinosaur calculations and such. These texts wouldn't have those type of calculations anyway! They are VERY GENERAL overview texts that make no pretentions of being in depth texts! I suggest you check on Romers texts and the journals (Journal of Paleontology) for you mathematical cal- culations. The books you mentioned are beginners texts and the calculations are long involved and BORING. General beginnig text rarely mention such. THIS DOES NOT MEAN IT DOES EXIST!!(Another good example of the "magical thinking"that is rampant in some of the replies on this net. Note:That was an editorial comment Mail all flames, don't clutter the net with them,please. Thank-you) Go look again. Point 5 - albatrosses stop flying at thirty pounds -- condors are bigger and heavier and BETTER at flying! I