Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ecsvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!mcnc!ecsvax!hes From: hes@ecsvax.UUCP (Henry Schaffer) Newsgroups: net.dcom,net.periphs Subject: Re: Definition of "null modem" cable Message-ID: <340@ecsvax.UUCP> Date: Fri, 30-Aug-85 08:26:33 EDT Article-I.D.: ecsvax.340 Posted: Fri Aug 30 08:26:33 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 31-Aug-85 21:44:26 EDT References: <195@almsa-1> Distribution: net Organization: NC State Univ. Lines: 35 Xref: watmath net.dcom:1232 net.periphs:837 > What is the exact definition of a "null modem" cable? ... > > Will Martin > I don't believe that there is a standard wiring - but the standard definition is that the "null modem" (also called a "crossover" or sometimes a "modem eliminator") converts a DTE interface to a DCE and vice-versa (DTE-data terminal equipment, e.g. terminal. DCE-data communication equipment, e.g. modem.) To do this some pins are passed through, e.g. 1 and 7,; some are "crossed over", e.g. 2 and 3, and some are just fed back at each end, e.g.6 and 20 are connected together at each end and don't go through. Then vendors differ as to exactly what else they do. Glasgal Communications also connects 4,5 and 8 at each end, while Black Box Products connects 4 and 5 at each end and connects 8 to the 6 and 20 at each end. Black Box also passes through 11 and 12 crossed over. (This info is from their respective catalogs.) The one I use to connect a Model 100 to an IBM PC has the following connections: Male Female 1 1 2 3 3 2 4 5 5 4 6,20 8 7 7 8 6,20 Someone elso made it for me, so I can't say whether this is the minimum necessary wiring - but it does work. Note it isn't exactly either one of the above vendor's schemes. Also note that the genders of the connectors are not standard (although female-female is probably most common.) You have to specify what you want. --henry schaffer