Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84; site hao.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!hao!hull From: hull@hao.UUCP (Howard Hull) Newsgroups: net.dcom,net.periphs Subject: Re: Definition of "null modem" cable Message-ID: <1734@hao.UUCP> Date: Sat, 31-Aug-85 12:10:53 EDT Article-I.D.: hao.1734 Posted: Sat Aug 31 12:10:53 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 2-Sep-85 04:11:17 EDT References: <195@almsa-1> Distribution: net Organization: High Altitude Obs./NCAR, Boulder CO Lines: 35 Xref: watmath net.dcom:1235 net.periphs:839 I just perused the RS232 standard and the Application Notes and did not find the words "null modem" anywhere. I did find "DCE(modem)" mentioned once in the Application notes. So "null modem" must be trash slang. A "full" null modem can be quite complex. Following is a description for one I have had miscellaneous cable collection. DEC TERMINAL / COMPUTER RS-232 NULL-MODEM CABLE 10-MAR-82 Cable Type: Belden 9504 4 pair overall shielded Outside Dia.: 0.265 inches (6.75 millimeters) Connectors: DB-25 Terminal Computer Pin # Signal Name Wire Color Signal Name Pin # 1 Protective ground-------Shield Drain----Protective ground 1 2 Transmit Data---------> red ----------> Receive Data 3 3 Receive Data <--------- white <-------- Transmit Data 2 4 Request to Send--:----> violet -------> Carrier Detect 8 5 Clear to Send <--: 5 jumpered to 4 6 Data Set Ready <-:----- green <-------- Data Terminal Ready 20 22 Ring Indicator <-: 22 jumpered to 6 7 Signal Ground--white's blk & red's blk--Signal Ground 7 8 Carrier Detect <--- violet's blk <--:---Request to Send 4 5 jumpered to 4 :-> Clear to Send 5 20 Data Terminal Ready -> green's blk -:-> Data Set Ready 6 22 jumpered to 6 :-> Ring Indicator 22 Notes: This cable is wired like a DEC H312 Null Modem Card. Judging by the above note, at least DEC seems to think it knows what a "null modem" is. Howard Hull [If yet unproven concepts are outlawed in the range of discussion... ...Then only the deranged will discuss yet unproven concepts] {ucbvax!hplabs | allegra!nbires | harpo!seismo } !hao!hull