Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site psuvax1.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!rochester!cmu-cs-pt!cadre!psuvax1!berman From: berman@psuvax1.UUCP (Piotr Berman) Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: Re: The Principle of Non-interference Message-ID: <1699@psuvax1.UUCP> Date: Mon, 26-Aug-85 17:14:44 EDT Article-I.D.: psuvax1.1699 Posted: Mon Aug 26 17:14:44 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 29-Aug-85 07:24:54 EDT References: <588@mmintl.UUCP> Organization: Pennsylvania State Univ. Lines: 50 > > There is a problem with the principle of non-interference as a basis > for morality: it is insufficient. There are a great many cases where > there is an interaction between two or more people, where it is not > clear whether interference has taken place, or who has interfered with > whom. > > Consider an example. Joe likes to go out in his back yard in the nude. > Jim, who lives next door, finds this offensive -- not because he disapproves > of nudity, but because he likes to sit in his backyard, and finds looking > at Jim unappealing. Is Joe "interfering" with Jim? If Jim calls the police > to get Joe arrested, is he "interfering"? > The example here is flawed. One may find looking at his mather-in-law unappealing, regardless whether nude or not. A better example would be the following. Imagine that Joe cuts his wrist in the same backyard. Shall Jim interfere and talk Joe to abandon his suicide? Or, is borrowing a lawn mower an interference? On the other hand, one may the following reasoning. If one proposes a moral principle, he/she has in mind a concept which is ethically appealing, at least to some people. The name of a concept by necessity is a mental shorthand. Thus to merely deduce a contradiction from the name of principle, and not from the broader explanation of underlying intentions and values is unfair. The way I would motivate the principle of not interference is that the freedom is one of the precious commodities a human may posess. Thus we should not UNNECESARILY restrict our freedom. By "do not interfere" I would mean "do not restrict freedom of thy neighbour". The fact that the principle is not sufficient is not necesserily a flow. It may be the case that it is impossible to reduce morality to a small collection of hierarchically ordered principles. The reason is that humans are social beings. Thus common good is a value. On the other hand, common good is a sum of individual well-beings. Even if the numerical values of each individual well-beings are clear (and they are not), the maximizing the sum (minimum, geometrical average?) of well- -beings would pose a difficult optimization problem. Thus inherently we will have a conflicts of values and gray areas of no clear choices. It seems that there is a trade off between clarity of a moral system and the range of gray areas. Of course, there may besome people do order their principles in strict hierarchies, thus resolving all the conflicts once for all. I personally do not believe in such an approach. P.B.