Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mmintl.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!pwa-b!mmintl!franka From: franka@mmintl.UUCP (Frank Adams) Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: Re: The Principle of Non-interference Message-ID: <619@mmintl.UUCP> Date: Mon, 26-Aug-85 20:51:12 EDT Article-I.D.: mmintl.619 Posted: Mon Aug 26 20:51:12 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 29-Aug-85 23:42:33 EDT References: <588@mmintl.UUCP> <549@utastro.UUCP> <607@mmintl.UUCP> <584@utastro.UUCP> Reply-To: franka@mmintl.UUCP (Frank Adams) Organization: Multimate International, E. Hartford, CT Lines: 29 Summary: In article <584@utastro.UUCP> padraig@utastro.UUCP (Padraig Houlahan) writes: >> >> There is a problem with the principle of non-interference as a basis >> >> for morality: it is insufficient. >> >> [Padraig Houlahan] >> >As I understand it, "interference" in recent discussions means curtailing >> >another's freedoms. the principle of non-interference is presented as one >> >of minimizing the curtailment of another's freedoms. >> >> This really doesn't help. Which curtailings of freedoms are "less" than >> which other curtailments? Only within a moral system can this be answered. >> (For an individual, one can ask his or her preference. This doesn't work >> when more than one person is involved.) Thus the principle of non- >> interference cannot be the *basis* for a moral system. > >No one said that making the decisions would be easy. Fortunately, we have >past experience to refer to. Also society can as a whole decide what >is acceptable. I didn't ask for it to be easy. I asked for it to *be derived from the principle*. The decisions of society as a whole form a basis for choice which is not so derived. Past experience is useful for making the decision making process easier, but it is not itself a *basis* for decisions. >If you are unhappy that there isn't someone ready to tell you unambiguously >what's right, and what's wrong, then that's too bad. It does not >invalidate the system though. Please try to avoid the ad hominem attacks.