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From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen)
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Subject: Re: Souls
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Date: Tue, 3-Sep-85 20:07:03 EDT
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>>>Somehow, I should have expected to see Rich rise to THAT bait.  The phrase
>>>is the title of a chapter in _No Man is an Island_, by Thomas Merton.  It
>>>is about the impossibility of knowing God and the supernature.  This is
>>>what this argument has been about.  I suppose I should have expected Rich
>>>to have the arrogance to claim to understand God. [WINGATE]

>>As opposed to a Christian claiming to understand god, his motives, his
>>actions, etc.  That, of course, is NOT arrogance...

>     You mean uncompromising Goedelesque logic:
>     6.4312 The solution of the riddle of life in space and time lies OUTSIDE
> 	   space and time. (It is not problems of natural science which have
> 	   to be solved).
>     6.432  HOW the world is, is completely indifferent for what is higher.
> 	   God does not reveal himself IN the world.
>  	   -Wittgenstein, _Tractatus_Logico-Philosophicus_

Oh, great.  We move from Wingate's religious philosophy to Ellis' philosophical
religion.  (Is it anything else to say "it is not problems for natural science
to solve"?  What then?)

>>  The rain ceases, and a bird's clear song suddenly announces the
>>  difference btween Heaven and hell.  -- Thomas Merton [really Rich Rosen]

>     That, of course, is NOT arrogance...

No, Mike, it's you talking, attributing ideas to me.  Of course that's
not arrogance.

>     The brain ceases, and a nerd's mere fingers automatically announce the
>     difference between Real and imaginary -- Rich Rosen [really Not Rich]

Since quotes go over better here than original thought and ideas, I'll
quote from another great philosopher.

"Did you do a lot of acid back in the hippie days?"  --Otto, from "Repo Man"
-- 
"iY AHORA, INFORMACION INTERESANTE ACERCA DE... LA LLAMA!"
	Rich Rosen    ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr