Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxd!rlr From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: Re: THe Moral Value of Conformity Message-ID: <1679@pyuxd.UUCP> Date: Thu, 12-Sep-85 21:11:07 EDT Article-I.D.: pyuxd.1679 Posted: Thu Sep 12 21:11:07 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 13-Sep-85 05:16:06 EDT References: <1647@pyuxd.UUCP> <1524@umcp-cs.UUCP> <2619@ihnss.UUCP> Organization: Whatever we're calling ourselves this week Lines: 20 > Conformity is submission to the values of others and does constitute a moral > choice to act against ones own values (else it would not be conformity). > Non-conformity is a similar submission to the antithesis of others values. > Both are forms of moral self abuse; I agree with RichR's repugnance... > [LATIMER] I disagree with your definitions only slightly here. I see non-conformity as, not an absolute rejection of anything and everything involving other people's values, but as a recognition that it is your choice, to choose which things you want and don't want. Choosing the opposite of everything society claims is "right" is indeed a form of "moral self abuse", but I don't think that non-conformity implies that absolute a rejection. It merely means that you choose based on your needs and wants. To choose based on it being the opposite of societal doctrine is just as anti-human and anti-self as the voluntary submission TO that doctrine. Similarly, belonging to an anti-conformist group and living up to THEIR required norms is trading in one taskmaster for another. Remember Steve Martin's "The Non-Conformist Oath"? -- "Meanwhile, I was still thinking..." Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr