Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ecsvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!whuxl!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!mcnc!ecsvax!dgary From: dgary@ecsvax.UUCP (D Gary Grady) Newsgroups: net.physics Subject: Re: IBM supercomputer to test QCD Message-ID: <313@ecsvax.UUCP> Date: Mon, 26-Aug-85 13:40:35 EDT Article-I.D.: ecsvax.313 Posted: Mon Aug 26 13:40:35 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 28-Aug-85 10:03:03 EDT References: <278@ecsvax.UUCP> <939@oddjob.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: Duke U Comp Ctr Lines: 38 In article <939@oddjob.UUCP> sra@kaos (Scott Anderson) writes: > In article <278@ecsvax.UUCP> dgary@ecsvax.UUCP (D Gary Grady) writes: > [...] > >Now, does anyone remember the name of the guy who wrote in Physics Today > >a few years ago that all physicists should go and buy Commodore 64s so > >they wouldn't have to use big computers any more? > > The author's name is Per Bak, and his point was that many of the calculations > that physicists used to do on mainframes can now be done on home computers. > That doesn't mean that there aren't calculations that need to be done on > large computers. I was only kidding (sorry about the missing :=) ), but it's worth noting that Bak's article was a little overly enthusiastic, if I'm remembering it correctly. I don't fault him for pointing out the utility of micros for scientific use, but at the same time it's important to note that there were, at the time the article was written, serious objections to using them for serious scientific work. The main problem was software, including compilers and subroutine libraries. Many BASIC interpreters (and I believe Bak specifically gave examples of programs in BASIC) have poorly written scientific functions, for example, which give little if any accuracy in parts of their domains. An article in Scientific American compared the accuracy of various compilers and interpreters on micros and mainframes, with most of them making an unimpressive showing compared with a pocket calculator. Unfortunately, many scientists are self-taught computerists and either don't know enough to worry about such problems or are inclined to think it "won't happen to them" in the fine tradition of seat belt usage. If you think I'm overly pessimistic, think about how many of your colleagues use IBM's SSP (including, ghu help us, RANDU). Have YOU ever checked out the claimed accuracy of your library functions? -- D Gary Grady Duke U Comp Center, Durham, NC 27706 (919) 684-3695 USENET: {seismo,decvax,ihnp4,akgua,etc.}!mcnc!ecsvax!dgary