Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!tektronix!hplabs!sri-unix!mikes@AMES-NAS.ARPA From: mikes@AMES-NAS.ARPA Newsgroups: net.physics Subject: none Message-ID: <525@sri-arpa.ARPA> Date: Fri, 30-Aug-85 19:52:43 EDT Article-I.D.: sri-arpa.525 Posted: Fri Aug 30 19:52:43 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 2-Sep-85 04:01:05 EDT Lines: 57 From: mikes@AMES-NAS.ARPA (Peter Mikes) RE: Many Worlds and other Interpretations of QM Status: R in reply to: hplabs!sdcrdcf!sdcsvax!davidson@UCB-Vax.ARPA (Greg Davidson) Hi Greg, I am atempting to understand what you are saying - and am not sure how well I did so far. So I would send this directly but I have problem with your address. I am seriously interested in alternate interpretations of the QM - and I would really like to get your view. I am not on level of agreeing/disagreeing yet - just attempting to align the terminology. Greg: First suppose that every elementary event occurs in all possible ways by forking off a whole universe for each possible outcome of the event. For ``observers'' along any world-line, it is irrelevant (because unobservable) whether some outcomes are more probable, or whether all are equally likely. It is also irrelevant whether outcomes are constrained by some ``laws of physics'' or whether all conceivable outcomes generate universes. Note that the latter is a simpler theory, hence preferable by Occam's razor. POM: First - it seems that what you are describing is not (what is usually called) MW (Many Worlds int) - I would suggest to call it AW ( All Worlds). [ I did not read Everett (either?) ] - but let's take his book as definition of MW. In MW (I think) not all possible ways are assumed - it just considers outcomes which are compatible with QM. Greg: Now in such a system, the notion of observer is rather bizarre (hence my earlier quotes). Particle configurations identical to what we think TRUE. ( for AW) So to summarize, MWTs do violence to the notion of observers, and thus to the practice of physics. To belive in a MWT is to believe ourselves TRUE. ( for AW ) > [1] Not all the alternate worlds are equiprobable! [2] There is no > observable difference between the alternate-worlds QM and the > Copenhagen QM. [1] Maybe, ....., Occam's razor would suggest abandoning any theory of structure in the generation of successor worlds. NOT clear why - pls explain. Thomas M. Breuel wrote: > [1] The 'multiple worlds interpretation' of QM is not a physical theory: > you cannot design an experiment to disprove it, since it postulates that > there is not interaction between its different worlds. [1] Many physical theories give the same results. Ptolemaic epicycles POM: It is not a theory! (most believe it is 'only' an interpre- tation of QM. I consider it a mere rephrasing of CI ). Are there other interpretations? Yes. I have mentioned at least three other interpretations which are significantly different ( Pilot wave, Q. potential and 'subvac' ) Didn't you noticed?