Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site dciem.UUCP Path: utzoo!dciem!mmt From: mmt@dciem.UUCP (Martin Taylor) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Yugo automobile and human rights ("Eastern Bloc") Message-ID: <1665@dciem.UUCP> Date: Tue, 27-Aug-85 17:33:47 EDT Article-I.D.: dciem.1665 Posted: Tue Aug 27 17:33:47 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 27-Aug-85 20:14:31 EDT References: <292@ubvax.UUCP> <28200051@inmet.UUCP> <163@gargoyle.UUCP> <911@mtuxo.UUCP> <220@cylixd.UUCP> <460@im4u.UUCP> Reply-To: mmt@dciem.UUCP (PUT YOUR NAME HERE) Organization: D.C.I.E.M., Toronto, Canada Lines: 26 Summary: >As for Yugoslavia's rights record, I'm sure you know more about it than I do >given the sources you cite, but I will say that Yugoslavia seems to be quite >a bit more open in its contact with Western Europe than the true Eastern >Bloc countries are. Yugoslavian citizens do a lot of travelling back and >forth to the West, especially if you include the thousand of Yugoslavian >"guest workers" in West Germany and Austria. > >--- Prentiss Riddle ("Aprendiz de todo, maestro de nada.") Last year I watched the border crossing between Yugoslavia and Italy near Trieste (didn't cross, though). My impression was that cars were going both ways with less holdup than at the Canada-USA border points. I didn't see the Austria-Hungary border, but there were lots of cars with Hungarian plates, apparently holding camping families in many cases. In Vienna, one got the impression that Viennese and Budapest people go shopping in each other's cities for whatever is cheaper there. Tourists can go to Budapest with very little formality (again, I didn't try it myself). Open borders *should* help reduce internal repression (how would they keep people in the repressed country), but they don't necessarily go together. -- Martin Taylor {allegra,linus,ihnp4,floyd,ubc-vision}!utzoo!dciem!mmt {uw-beaver,qucis,watmath}!utcsri!dciem!mmt