Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site psuvax1.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!rochester!cmu-cs-pt!cadre!psuvax1!berman From: berman@psuvax1.UUCP (Piotr Berman) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: This is a repeat for those who ignored it. Message-ID: <1701@psuvax1.UUCP> Date: Tue, 27-Aug-85 12:32:49 EDT Article-I.D.: psuvax1.1701 Posted: Tue Aug 27 12:32:49 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 29-Aug-85 23:47:32 EDT References: <27@decwrl.UUCP> <686@mit-vax.UUCP> Organization: Pennsylvania State Univ. Lines: 54 > Don Black speaks: > > People forget that Hitler was aided and abetted by Uncle Joe Stalin. > >Without the help of the Soviet Union, it would have been difficult for Hitler > >to rearm Germany to the extent that he did. Not to mention that the > >international corporations openly supported Hitler in his war efforts. > > I was under the impression that Russia was our (God forbid) ally in WW2 > and that she fought AGAINST the Nazis. Did Stalin feel that killing a > lot of German soldiers was helpful? > > Thanks in advace for your answers! > -- > Charles Forsythe Don Black is slightly confused in this subject, but not entirely wrong. In the period 1917-1941 the alliances were changing several times: 1. Germans helped Bolshevics to make their revolution, because of their program of unitaleral peace with Germany. In years 1919-20 there were instances of cooperation against Poland. 2. In the same years Great Britain were against to large a diminishing of Germany, as to avoid destabilization of it. 3. Hitler gain power partially beccause of refusal of communists to cooperate with Social Demacrats. This policy was dictated by Stalin. 4. In the years 1934-38 Communist, still under Stalin influence, tried to organize "popular front" coalitions against fascists. Stalin attempted to join an alliance against Hitler. Hitler in turn was sending communists to concentration camps. 5. France and Britain tacitly accept Hitler gains in Austria and Czechoslovakia. Hitler suggests that his expantion will be directed against Soviet Union. 6. In 1939 two years of Stalin-Hitler alliance started. Eastern Europe was divided into zones of influence. French, British and remaining Polish forces were planning to help Finland in the war with Soviets. German invasion of Norway and Denmark makes it impossible. 7. Hitler invades Russia. British and Americans faced with possibility of the whole Eurasia divided by Germany and Japan. Americans calculate that they need 300 divisions to defeat Germany, and that they can send at most 120 divisions across the Atlantic. Material help of the West for Stalin. The claim that Stalin helped Hitler is justified, but only partially. Obviously, there were three major blocks: Germany, Italy and Japan, West (not very cohesive) allience and Russia. The German block was aggresive. West was counting on weakening both adversary blocks in a mutual war, and so did Stalin. Unexpected scope of the victories of the German block forced West and Russia into a weary alliance. > > Not to mention that the > >international corporations openly supported Hitler in his war efforts. This is a pure myth. International corporations were of no major importance before WW2. Piotr Berman