Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site alice.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!alice!jj From: jj@alice.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics,net.religion Subject: Re: "Secular Humanism" banned in the US Schools. Message-ID: <4237@alice.UUCP> Date: Thu, 29-Aug-85 16:06:27 EDT Article-I.D.: alice.4237 Posted: Thu Aug 29 16:06:27 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 31-Aug-85 07:14:56 EDT References: <4141@alice.UUCP> <938@bunker.UUCP> <161@gargoyle.UUCP> Organization: New Jersey State Farm for the Terminally Bewildered Lines: 104 Xref: watmath net.politics:10727 net.religion:7498 >Relay-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site alice.UUCP > >In article <1574@pyuxd.UUCP> rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) writes: >>> Just curious again , but exactly what huminist dogma is taught in public >>> schools? What I learned in school was Math, Chemistry, Biology, English >>> ( but not much ), etc. But no course in secular humanism. Not even after >>> school. I must of missed it. >>> Bob Weiler. >> >>Don't you know? Teaching you to use logical reasoning instead of taking >>things on faith? Learning the scientific method of objective analysis? >>Why, all of that is SECULAR HUMANISM!!!!! Because it leads you to conclusions >>that contradict religious thinking. Thus, religionists feel it should be >>banned, to prevent people from thinking about such things. Isn't that clear? >> >> Rich Rosen pyuxd!rlr > > Wrong! Thats not what secular humanism teaches. It teaches little children > how to think about suicide. It teaches them that some people's lives are Well, lookie here. "Secular humanism teaches little children how to think about suicide". Of course, with no explaination of why or how. Just a bald, manipulitive, misleading, emotional, co-opting statment that is clearly intended to make peoples' knees jerk. Suicide clearly exists. Who commits suicide? Lots of people. Of course, they're all kids corrupted by secular humanism. They're not people affected by overpopulation, starvation, economic hardship, LOSS of faith, and things like that. And then: > worth less than others. It teaches them that homosexuality and premarital This isn't net.abortion. What, let us see, does the "Moral Majority" teach us? Well, one thing it teaches us is that black people are worth less than whites, at least in South Africa. I guess that means that the "Moral Majority" is secular humanism too? Yeah, sure :-( > sex are choices for them to consider. It also teaches them to ignore any "Homosexuality and premarital sex" Of course, lump two things, clearly unrelated, together for the emotional kick it provides. The first "homosexuality" is supposed to cause a knee-jerk fear reaction. Of course, since Dan lumps them together, the second "Premarital Sex" must be the same. Well, Dan, one of the points of secular humanism is that different people have different opinions, and that's all there is to it. You seem to say that I HAVE to hold your opinion. Hell, you presume that I hold your opinions. I don't. > values they may be learning in the home and that values are purely subjective > and how to make their own values. (if any!) Sure, and since that's what you hear, that's what they teach. Never mind that they point out that many "Christian" ethics are necessary for the functioning of society and the self-interest of the individual. Never mind that secular humanism tries to establish a NON-deistic ethos that provides each person a place. (And that justifies being nice to others, etc, in a completely non-superstitious way) You don't. You don't have any place for a 'secular humanist" and you make that clear. You consider, from the tone of your article, "secular humanists" to be worth less than others. Does that make YOU a secular humanist? Or do you just have the same ethos you're accusing them of? > Come on! No more BS! Secular humanism is designed to eliminate God from > our society and its central target is the YOUNG! No BS? Ok, start with yourself. Your target is MY YOUNG. You want to brainwash them into believing an outdated, bankrupt set of beliefs that were created to make a society of 2000 years ago survive, and that haven't changed as the world has. You want me to be forced to handicap my children. BTW: Eliminate God? That's a good trick, mortals eliminating God! > And its working just fine! Because most parents don't have the slightest > idea what is going on in the public school systems. I have a good idea. You're trying to prevent my children from learning secular humanism, evolution, physics, chemistry, and cosmology (among other things) and replace them with a set of supernatural beliefs. > If anybody is interested in finding out, Phyllis Schlafly wrote a book > that tells all the gory details. Can't remember the name off hand but > will find out and post it! Phyllis Schafley writes the TRUTH? I thought that the truth was finished in Revelations, and that there wasn't going to be any more. > > Dan Enough! -- SUPPORT SECULAR TEDDY-BEAR-ISM. "You, who are on the road, must have a code that you can live by." (ihnp4/allegra)!alice!jj