Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!cbdkc1!desoto!packard!ihnp1!ihnp4!ucbvax!csanders From: csanders@ucbvax.ARPA (Craig S. Anderson) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Re: American Hostages Message-ID: <10251@ucbvax.ARPA> Date: Sat, 31-Aug-85 07:41:26 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.10251 Posted: Sat Aug 31 07:41:26 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 1-Sep-85 06:25:11 EDT References: <11045@rochester.UUCP> <7800390@inmet.UUCP> <370@scirtp.UUCP> Reply-To: csanders@ucbvax.UUCP (Craig S. Anderson) Organization: University of California at Berkeley Lines: 32 In article <370@scirtp.UUCP> todd@scirtp.UUCP (Todd Jones) writes: >> >> > The group (Witnesses for Peace) is not asking for anyone to >> > pity their plight at the hands of the contras that held them, >> > they are demonstrating that perhaps our "founding father" >> > equivilents [sic] are less than noble. >> > >> > -todd jones >> >> Another small point: from all accounts, these people's safety or >> their release were never made conditional on any demands. So, >> who was it, on or off the net, who first labelled them "hostages" ? >> >> -Jan Wasilewsky > >Were they not forcibly detained by a group of contra soldiers? >This is my understanding. Being 'forcibly detained' is not the same as being held hostage. Generally, hostage takers want something in return for the safe delivery of the hostages, and threaten them with dire consequences if the demands are not met. This did not occur to those so-called 'Witnesses for Peace'. Also, if the contras are such evil, nasty people, and the Sandinistas are such great guys, why did 'Commandante Zero', a hero of the revolution, turn against the people he fought for? > > >-todd jones Craig Anderson csanders@ucbvax.ARPA