Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site osiris.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!umcp-cs!aplvax!osiris!jcp From: jcp@osiris.UUCP (Jody Patilla) Newsgroups: net.flame,net.politics,net.women Subject: Re: Possible Ban on Pornography Message-ID: <504@osiris.UUCP> Date: Sun, 1-Sep-85 09:51:01 EDT Article-I.D.: osiris.504 Posted: Sun Sep 1 09:51:01 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 3-Sep-85 01:32:29 EDT References: <369@scirtp.UUCP> <372@scirtp.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: Johns Hopkins Hospital Lines: 23 Xref: watmath net.flame:11785 net.politics:10778 net.women:7260 > I don't have a stand on the broader issue of porn bans, but > concerning these two points I will take exception. Every community has > (often broad) standards of morality and taste. What causes Todd to later > write that he wouldn't approve of child pornography ? Why would most > people be repulsed by ,say, photos of dogs being chopped up (yuck)? > Obviously most people feel that these are obscene and their distribution > would be detrimental to society as a whole . We can set standards. > And we do. Obviously , everyone is not going to be happy with any > standard. But the ones we have , although not explicitly stated, > do work. I suspect that only a small minority activelly disagree with them. I thnk that the difference here is that the children and the dogs are not in a position to give any kind of informed consent. The adult men and women who appear in magazines and films are expected to *know* what they are doing. The real problem is not pornography in particular - the type of porn in question is only a symptom of a society-wide attitude that regards women (and sometimes men) as objects. There are types of erotica that are very enjoyable that do not degrade or objectify individuals and it's unfair to lump them all together. -- jcpatilla "The bland leadeth the bland and they both shall fall into the kitsch."