Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site mnetor.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcs!mnetor!sophie From: sophie@mnetor.UUCP (Sophie Quigley) Newsgroups: net.kids,net.legal,net.politics Subject: Re: corporal punishment in schools Message-ID: <1966@mnetor.UUCP> Date: Tue, 3-Sep-85 16:39:48 EDT Article-I.D.: mnetor.1966 Posted: Tue Sep 3 16:39:48 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 3-Sep-85 18:15:02 EDT References: <2149T3B@psuvm> <658@rduxb.UUCP> <1214@teddy.UUCP> <14@unc.unc.UUCP> <11316@rochester.UUCP> Reply-To: sophie@mnetor.UUCP (Sophie Quigley) Organization: Computer X (CANADA) Ltd., Toronto, Ontario, Canada Lines: 51 Xref: utcs net.kids:1849 net.legal:2256 net.politics:10588 Summary: In article <11316@rochester.UUCP> ray@rochester.UUCP (Ray Frank) writes: >I must pose to you a situation involving a parent child confrontation. >Parent : Time for bed. >4yr old: Nope. > >Parent : Please, time for bed now. >4yr old: Nope. > >Parent : You must go to bed now. >4yr old: Nope. > >And so on, what would you do? Remember, you said discipline based on fear is >better than no disipline at all. You're not allowed to threaten to take his >teddy bear away. You're not allowed to tell him he can't have ice cream if >he doesn't listen. Are not these tactics based on threatening the child with >fear, i.e. no ice cream, take away your buddy the teddy bear. I really want to >know what you would do without some kind of threat. By the way, you are not >allowed to bodily carry him to bed, that would be physically taking matters in >hand and over powering him with your size. Besides, he would just climb out of >bed and come downstairs. What WOULD you do? I don't know what I would do, but here's what my parents did: whenever they noticed that I wasn't in a mood for going to bed, they played games with me that led me to bed. Here are the two games that worked for a while: 1 - racing to see who would get into bed first. Everybody would start undressing really fast and whoever got into bed first would win. I always won. I can't believe I actually fell for that, but I did, and I got a real kick out of winning against my parents. They probably got a real kick out of being so sneaky. 2 - if I was particularly excited, they would turn going to bed into a really physically exciting event by doing the following: one parent (my father since he was the strongest) would hold me by the wrists, the other (my mother) by the ankles, then they'd swing me in the air back and forth a few times and drop me on the bed the last time. They never forced this on me either. I had to beg for it since it was so much fun. There was also a whole ceremony involved with going to bed. It involved some tucking, some kissing, glasses of water being brought, being allowed to get up *ONCE* to go to the bathroom (the second time, they became really unpleasant!); when I was under 4, they would read to me in bed and when I was older allowed to read one more chapter of a book I was reading, or being allowed to finish the chapter. I could also sing myself to sleep for a while. -- Sophie Quigley {allegra|decvax|ihnp4|linus|watmath}!utzoo!mnetor!sophie