Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 (Denver Mods 7/26/84) 6/24/83; site drutx.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!mtuxo!drutx!dlo From: dlo@drutx.UUCP (OlsonDL) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Patriotism and America Bashing Message-ID: <366@drutx.UUCP> Date: Tue, 3-Sep-85 18:56:53 EDT Article-I.D.: drutx.366 Posted: Tue Sep 3 18:56:53 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 5-Sep-85 02:46:33 EDT Organization: AT&T Information Systems Laboratories, Denver Lines: 38 > = From: richardt@orstcs.UUCP (richardt) >> = Me >>Suppose I drag people out of hospitals and kill them. >>Question: >>Can I do ANY of those things and still be justifiably be called a fighter >>of oppression? If you cannot answer "NO", then you are a fool and you >>didn't even have to laugh! >>David Olson >I hate to tell you this, David, but by those standards the Good Ole' U.S. of A. >is one of the prime causers of oppression. I won't even try to dispute this. Mainly because it presents the philosophical predicament of trying to prove a negative. BTW -- I am very much opposed to oppression, even if the oppressor happens to be an American! Supprised? (If your comment is meant to dispute mine, I guess I missed it.) But, I cannot accept an equation that goes something like this: 'An oppressive American ==> an oppressive America ==> *ANY* American = oppressor. Therefore, imprisoning/beating/killing *ANY* American = fighting oppression'. As plausible as that sounds, it seems to be a rather large case of begging the question. The point that I was trying to make is that several people have attempted to elevate, say, hijackers of a civilian airliner to the level of a fighter of oppression. This is, at the very least, FOOLish. I guess that 9 uses of "oppress"... (now 10) in this article should be enough. :-) > orstcs!richardt These opinions belong to anyone who wants to claim them. David Olson ..!ihnp4!drutx!dlo "To laugh at men of sense is the privilege of fools". -- Jean de la Bruyere